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Re: Microsoft's Java-Killer! (VBScript)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (B Jakson)
Sat Feb 10 16:56:59 1996
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:55:38 -0500
From: B Jakson <Bjakson@student.umass.edu>
To: grege@optimation.com.au (Greg Ewing)
Cc: java-interest@java.sun.com
At 02:45 PM 2/8/96 +1100, you wrote:
>> From NewsGroup_comp-lang-java Tue Feb 6 22:25 EST 1996
>> From: NewsGroup_comp-lang-java
>> >From: bdietrich@voysys.com (Bill Dietrich)
>> Subject: Re: Microsoft's Java-Killer! (VBScript)
>> Date: 5 Feb 1996 18:23:20 -0800
>> Nntp-Posting-Host: handler.eng.sun.com
>> To: "'java-interest@java.sun.com'" <java-interest@java>
>>
>>
>> Actually, if VBScript is delivered and works, I think
>> it may be a serious threat to Java.
>>
>> I've been lurking on the Java list for a while, and
>> as a professional programmer I can tell you I'm not
>> very excited about yet another complex object-oriented
>> language (and library).
>>
>
>Java complex? This is the first time I have seen this
>stated anywhere, and I spend at least 1 hour per day
>reading about the language. Java is simple and can be
>learnt very quickly by anyone with a grasp of C. It is
>simpler than C by specification.
>
>> I want something that lets me get a job done (making
>> money for my company) without having to make a career
>> of learning some really complex tool. I don't like
>> Microsoft Foundation Classes for the same reason.
>> I could learn Java or MFC (and I have learned C++ and
>> Smalltalk), but there are easier ways to get my job done.
>>
>
>If you already know C++ and Smalltalk, then Java will be a
>cakewalk. C++ is complex, Smalltalk easier but still far
>more difficult to learn than Java.
>
>I can see where you're coming from when you cite the MFC;
>however the Java API is small and very easy to learn (partly
>due to single-inheritance).
>
>> I haven't seen anything about JavaScript yet; maybe that
>> will be a tool I'll be happier with.
>>
>
>In my case, Java was much easier to pick up than Visual
>Basic, notwithstanding the poor standard of documentation and
>lack of a good ide.
>
>> (stuff omitted)
>
>> I just want to get a job done, in a simple and straightforward way.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill Dietrich
>> bdietrich@voysys.com
>>
>
>
I see what you are saying, and it is a valid point. But I believe what the
original author of that e-mail, Bill Dietrich, was trying to say, is that
the microsoft family of applications (Office-word/excel, c libraries, etc.)
is so widely used on almost all markets, that It will be easier (and safer
for that matter) to use the microsoft products. Microsoft is famous for
having all of there applications work together in many ways, so In this
view, the 'Microsoft approach' is an 'easier' way to get the job done.
I am not agreeing, or disagreeing with this view, I am merely trying to say
what I thought Bill Dietrich was trying to say.
Thanks,
Til Then,
B Jakson
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