[4639] in java-interest
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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan Locke)
Wed Jan 10 00:40:05 1996
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 19:38:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathan Locke <jonl@sealevelsoftware.com>
To: Mike Paluka <mikep@exmachina.com>
Cc: "Barzydlo, Tobias SrA LGTR" <tbarzydl@b856s1.ssc.af.mil>,
java-interest@java.sun.com
In-Reply-To: <199601091620.LAA25044@exmachina.com>
all right... i'm probably opening a can of worms here, but i'm not sure the
question at hand is whether java needs CORBA support or COM support (it will
probably end up with both)... i think the issue is whether java *needs* an
object model at all because java already *has* (is?) an object model and
i am not convinced that java couldn't be easily extended to provide
excellent support for distributed objects on its own. because of all the
nasty dependencies COM has on C++ ugliness, i imagine it would be much
easier to make distributed objects directly in java than it would be to do
the same thing to COM... *MUCH* easier. most particularly, i see no reason
why distributed objects shouldn't receive language-level support. feel
free to get up on your own soapbox. ;-)
J
On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Mike Paluka wrote:
> At 08:39 AM 1/8/96 PST, you wrote:
> >
> > Just 'dropping in' to say "Hello" and get a vague idea of how many
> >people (fanatics?) these lists have gathered up so far.
>
>
> The REAL DEAL, in my mind, is the new work being done to integrate
> CORBA and Java. This will allow truly distributed "objects,"
> rather than just distributed applets; the difference being that
> in the former case, "data", not just "code", is distributed.
>
> The nightmare is that Microsoft will use its muscle to "force"
> OLE (rather than SOM/CORBA) into Java, ruining its potential by, at the
> very least, fragmenting the market with incompatible implementations.
>
> --> Please refer to the EXCELLENT comparison of OLE(COM) vs. CORBA(SOM) at:
>
> "ftp://ftp.cil.org//pub/cilabs/tech/system_object_model/SOM_vs_COM_Compar/SO
> M_vs_COM_Compar.html".
>
> P.S., I am not an anti-Microsoft zealot. I have been programming
> Windows/OLE since their beginnings.
>
> - Michael J. Paluka
> mikep@exmachina.com
>
> From: Michael J. Paluka
> At: mikep@exmachina.com
>
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