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Re: How java apps get krb tickets?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (gwz@geek.ocsg.com)
Wed Nov 15 21:00:58 1995

From: gwz@geek.ocsg.com
To: mrm@puffin.Eng.Sun.COM (Marianne Mueller)
Cc: java-kerberos@lists.stanford.edu, www-kerberos@lists.stanford.edu,
        java-interest@java.Eng.Sun.COM
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:10:54 PST."
             <9511152010.AA27526@puffin.Eng.Sun.COM> 
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:30:27 -0800

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Marianne ~

> 
> In JDK 1.0, an applet cannot read or write files on a remote client,
> so I don't think it can get a Kerberos ticket in that way.  (By
> client, I mean a Java-enabled browser running on a desktop computer.)
> 

That's unfortunate, since it eliminates the transparency of using Kerberos.

> What you could do is implement some style of server-side persistent
> data, which applets can access.  I guess for Kerberos, this isn't any
> good, since the whole point is that you don't want to expose the
> Kerberos private-ticket traffic to IP.
> 

True.

> Maybe the problem of bootstrapping Kerberos security is similar to the
> key management conundrum. 

I don't understand this comment.  If I have a Kerberos TGT, I already have a 
key -- it's been distributed, it's being managed (sort of :-), the problem is 
that Java can't use it. 

> Short term, people might could get around
> some of the key management problems by keeping a set of public keys on
> their local hard disks, and not attempting to get those over IP.  
> Physical devices like smart cards might also gain popularity as a way
> to store and share public keys.
> 

If an applet can't access local files, I'm not sure how this helps anything, 
in the Java case.  Or am I missing your point?

> Marianne
> Java Products Group

~ gwz


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