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Re: declaration v.s. definition ambiguity

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gary Aitken)
Mon Nov 13 15:44:31 1995

Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 09:32:41 -0700
From: garya@village.org (Gary Aitken)
To: daconta@PrimeNet.Com (Michael Daconta), java-interest@java.sun.com
In-Reply-To: <199511121432.HAA20698@usr6.primenet.com>



>You seem to be thinking of declaration vs definition as it is used in
>ANSI C whereby declaration announces to the compiler the identifier and
>type and whereby definition is both the announcing to the compiler and
>the reservation of storage space.
>
>It seems that this is now changing in C++.

Yes.  I have not read all of the latest draft on this, 
so I'm probably off then.

>The most simplest way to phrase the question is this:
>
>what do you call this:
>
>class myObject {
>        int a;
>
>        myObject()
>        {
>                a = 0;
>        }
>
>        // other methods
>
>}
>
>Is it a class declaration  OR
>      a class definition.
>
>If you go by ANSI C:  class declaration (even though there are no classes)
>          by C++:  class definition
>          by Java: class definition????

I don't think you have much choice but to call it a class definition, since 
it is the only thing allowed, and there can be only one of them.

The closest thing to a class declaration doesn't exist syntactically in 
java, but can be obtained as the output of javap.  This is probably what 
people should be using as the "ultimate documentation" on the api to a 
class, and what one should use as a reference when programming in java.  
Unfortunately, since it is an extraction of the output of a translator which 
does not preserve comments, it has no additional information along with it 
describing the interpretation of the syntactic entities.  It would be really 
nice if /** comments in the code could be preserved in the .class file (new 
option for javac?), and output by javap.  One could then program in a style 
which allowed shipping a .class file from which javap could extract a 
reliable, well documented api.

Gary Aitken		garya@village.org
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