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Redoing AWT
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff Kesselman)
Wed Jun 14 19:57:50 1995
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Subject: Re: access to container or window
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> <AU> >
> <AU> > A lot of the classes like List, TextField etc. need a container which can be
> <AU> > a form or a window. where do I get this variable from inside my applet
> <AU> > subclass ?
> <AU>
> <AU> If you want to make an applet, you are out of luck. If you want to
> <AU> create your own separate Frame, then the container is the Frame.
> <AU>
> <AU> With Applets, you cannot embed native window items. This is a major
> <AU> drawback of the current system, which is why it's being redone. It's
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> I've heard this 'redoing' of awt mentioned before, but no details
> (or generalities) about how this is being reworked have been discussed.
> Could someone please give us a hint as to what to expect? Can we
> expect the same classes that we have now? What new features are
> being planned? I'd like to see many of the features of the Stanford
> InterViews 3.1 C++ library (its new name as part of X11R6 eludes me)
> included in the 'new' awt (Glyphs, etc.).
>
Just to throw another POV in, I'D like to see AWT redone in a more
portable fashion. Identify a simple SMALL group of core functiosn that a
native platform has to proivde and then implement the rest of AWT purely
in java code ontop of that. This would make porting AWT (and thus HotJava)
MUCH simpler.
I know there is a temptation to code to the high-level interface of X
"because its there" and already working, but ultimately this SERIOUSLY
hampers portability. In my mind, the ultimate AWT should depend on
little more then the ability to BLT images and to read a pointing device...
(Another 2 cents gone ;) )
Jeff Kesselman
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