[2731] in java-interest
java and scripting language
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ser@jersey.uoregon.edu)
Thu Oct 12 04:22:18 1995
From: ser@jersey.uoregon.edu
To: java-interest@java.sun.com
In-Reply-To: owner-java-interest-digest@java.sun.com's message of Sun, 08 Oct
1995 13:11:09 -0700.
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:41:03 -0700
hubert@SPARKY.CS.NYU.EDU (Hung-Hsien Chang)
> Has Sun planned to write a scripting language for the Java?
> Especially the GUI part ? anything like tk/tcl?
On that note, I'd like to offer my support of the idea that the Java
development team accept the TK development team's suggestion that Java drop
the AWT implementation and use imbedded Tk with the AWT class interface.
There are several points which are valid in this case, and please read the
entire message before you decide to flame me:
1) You folks have enough trouble working the bugs out of Java without having
to worry about developing a UI from scratch.
2) The Tk project is internal to Sun, which is important on many levels, even
given the inter-group rivalry.
3) Tk exists everywhere already. That would be that much less porting you
need to do.
4) Tk has a lot of functionality which would require a lot of effort to
reproduce if you continue with the current AWT implementation.
5) The Tk interface is well designed.
My disclaimers are primarily for the people who do not know much about TCL/Tk:
this is not an argument for TCL inclusion in Java. I do not like TCL.
Including Tk wouldn't neccessarily mean using the TCL scripting language for
generating interfaces. Using Tk wouldn't mean using an external library, or
changing the was AWT is invoked from Java.
For the people on the JDT, I can only say with deepest sincerity that I
believe integrating Tk into Java would be tremendously helpful to your
development efforts, which would help us application developers by providing
us quickly with a stable interface package, not to mention helping you port to
more platforms more quickly. On a more aesthetic note, I personally like the
look and feel of Tk applications.
--- SER
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