[1432] in java-interest
Client Control of Presentation (was Re: html3)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James C Deikun)
Fri Sep 1 20:19:13 1995
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 17:27:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: James C Deikun <jcdst10+@pitt.edu>
To: Elliotte Rusty Harold <Elliotte@blackstar.com>
cc: Jason Weiler <weilerj@std.teradyne.com>, java-interest@java.sun.com,
hotjava-interest@java.sun.com
In-Reply-To: <35EE35626C0@blackstar.blackstar.com>
On Fri, 1 Sep 1995, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> Then turn it off. It is (or should be) a user preference whether or
> not to respect the author's suggestions about which fonts and
> backgrounds to use. If you can't turn it off, then the browser is
> broken, not the extensions.
Well, for backgrounds that works. For fonts, you still have to hope
someone didn't think it was cool to mark their headers with <FONT>
instead of <Hx>, their emphasis with <FONT> instead of <EM>, etc.
> One thing people continue to misunderstand or ignore about the web is
> that the user DOES and SHOULD control the display, the efforts of
> dinosaur paper-based companies like Adobe not withstanding. Maybe I
> have small black and white monitor and like to read my text in
> nine-point Monaco. Then I should be allowed to. Or maybe I have bad
> vision and need the text to be in 30 point Helvetica Bold to be able
> to read it. Then I can choose that too. On the other hand maybe I
> have a great monitor and perfect vision and can use the fonts the
> author suggests. It's my choice to do so. However no font choice
> should be(or is) forced on me.
I agree. (Otherwise I wouldn't be *complaining* about <FONT> :)
This doesn't really have much to do with Java, though.
Except for one thing--there currently doesn't seem to be much (if
anything) a user can do to control the appearance of applets, due mostly
to the design of the awt classes. Oughtn't this to be changed? But if
so, how? And would Sun feel up to it? :7
Even that's probably better discussed on hotjava-interest though, which
is why I've cc'd this there.
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