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Woody Allen

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mide Services)
Thu Aug 31 03:59:08 1995

Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 02:09:45 GMT
From: Mide Services <mideservices@almide.demon.co.uk>
Reply-To: mideservices@almide.demon.co.uk
To: johnm@csua.berkley.edu
Cc: java-interest@java.sun.com

(In reply to your message dated Wednesday 30, August 1995)

Dear John Mitchell,


    It's my fault.  I took the bait of getting into a stupid squabble with 
Scott Treacy.

    I am NOT using college connection time.  This is my private account.  
"Bandwidth".  Getting real communication has nothing to do with Shannon's 
theories.  Creative situations imply real communication, in the wide, 
Latin sense of the word.  It needs a lot of social chit-chat, to generate 
empathy, group awareness.  

    We are not computers sending bitstreams to eachother!  Getting Java 
into the air IS a creative business; having this kind of stupid argument 
in the middle of dry discussions actually _helps_ the whole group.  We get 
to know eachother's styles and what we are each thinking, and so generates 
more sparks per idea, to come back to beyond Shannon. 

    "Bandwidth" !!!  That phrase is beginning to make me smile wryly.

    By the way, there are some pretty sharp lucid thinkers in this group, 
Scott Hudson, Jeff Kesselman, Robert S. Rodgers, Charles L. Perkins, 
Robert O'Callahan, and indeed yourself, spring to mind.  We can only 
benefit from that lucidity and sharpness by rutting against eachother, 
kicking ideas about till they fall apart, or pass the grilling, and can be 
collectively seen to be good.  

    In the absence of Windows NT, or Solaris, for the Pentium I'm on the 
point of assembling, I think I'm doing a service to the java-interest 
group following the discussion and tweaking it from time to time, in 
seemingly infuriating ways.



Sandy
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