[885] in Central_America
New quotes for Thu Aug 18
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Thu Aug 18 01:25:39 1988
From: Don't reply to root! <root@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 88 01:24:56 EDT
To: ca-mtg@bloom-beacon.mit.edu
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dachurch (Douglas A. Church):
"When the smack begins to flow
Then I really don't care anymore
About all you jim-jams in this town
And everybody putting everybody else down
And all the politicians making crazy sounds
And all the dead bodies piled up in mounds" - "Heroin", Lou Reed
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datuv (Laura F Finkelstein):
Trust can't be bought. It has to be nurtured.
Trust takes time. It can't be rushed.
When trust is lost, it is very hard to find again.
When trust is lost, and found, and lost again, it can never be replaced.
-LFF
Touch my heart and feel winter, melt the ice and live in eternal spring.
-LFF & DH
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dschmidt (Dan Schmidt):
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eichin (Mark W. Eichin):
Ummm... this guy doesn't sound like he's kidding... not even a smiley
face... (note that X uses the same vocabulary in this case as NeWS
(or SunNeWS, pronounced `snooze' :-))
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 88 00:23:20 EDT
To: NeWS-makers@brillig.umd.edu
Subject: Re: Bugs in NeWs documentation
From: cca.ucsf.edu!ccb.ucsf.edu!dick@cgl.ucsf.edu (Dick Karpinski)
Sender: NeWS-makers-request@brillig.umd.edu (Don Hopkins)
Return-Path: NeWS-makers-request@brillig.umd.edu (Don Hopkins)
The NeWS and the Open Look documentation is said to refer to
the local graphics device as a window server and the distant
applications engine as a window client. I am fully aware
that this makes good sense when you understand the mechanism.
However, I am acutely aware that novices find this confusing.
The local thing is client. The distant thing is server.
Don't confuse me. Don't confuse me with facts or opinions.
My workstation is me or my agent. Distant hosts serve me
and my agent. Change the terminology pronto. Please.
We did it wrong with electricity. Electrons got to be negative
because we didn't know better when we assigned plus and minus.
We humans operate as association engines. The term "negative"
has, if I may, negative connotations. I claim that this error
in naming has had negative consequences for centuries. Let us
try to avoid such problems with our newest technologies.
Please don't tell me it is too late to change, now. I know it
will be expensive to rewrite those details in the documentation,
but not fixing this will plague us for years if not decades
whenever we bring another novice into our world.
In considering how to accomplish the change, I conclude that
the terms server and client should be abandonned in favor of
new terms which comply better with the novice user's image of
the situation. Perhaps the local device should be the window
agent and the distant one be the application vendor or provider.
Dick
Dick Karpinski Manager of Minicomputer Services, UCSF Computer Center
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henry (Henry Mensch):
MOSCOW (NYT) -- Public libraries in at least some Soviet cities have
been ordered to remove from their collections all political and
economic books written before Mikhail S. Gorbachev became the Soviet
leader in 1985, a librarian has charged in a letter to the government
newspaper Izvestia.
The librarian, in a letter from the Crimea, said library officials in
major cities had also been told to clear out the writings of two
former Soviet leaders, Leonid I. Brezhnev and Konstantin U. Chernenko,
as well as other Communist Party officials. The order is one of the
severest measures to date in an official campaign to impugn the
reputations and thinking of the past, especially the Brezhnev era, the
18 years now invariably described as "the period of stagnation."
The letter did not make clear whether the order was issued only to
libraries in the Crimea or was a national decree. It also did not
spell out what political and economic literature was to be removed. If
the order were taken literally, it would leave the political and
economics sections of public libraries bare, and would dispose of many
works still considered valuable, such as memoirs of World War II
figures.
--
<you'll find me here usually . . .
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jen (Jennifer Hawthorne):
To work on writing the Fall Assassin Game until my fingers fall off...
35 days and counting (**gulp!**)
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langz (Lang Zerner):
From 30 Aug 88 until further notice, I will be in the UK. I will try to
arrange forwarding from this account to any account I may obtain overseas, but
until then I may not be reachable electronically. Please bear with me, and
look forward to my subsequent resurfacing in the San Diego area.
Be seeing you...
# Lang Zerner
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