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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Central America)
Sat Jul 2 03:08:16 1994
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 03:07:42 -0400
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eichin (Mark W. Eichin):
play:
Hmm. I have plans... and then I have things that Just Happen :-)
plans:
Get the Twiddler working under Linux.
-- The mouse driver works! Yaay!
-- and the generic X code works now...
Listen to more loud music. (and get some decent headphones :-)
Resurrect the Turing Alarm Clock project.
Do more biking, swimming, and fwisbee!
ThingsJustHappen:
spending the weekend in Way Far Northern Vermont...
good seats at Phantom...
work:
New phone numbers: 629-3000, 629-3013...
Thursday. Never could get the hang of... well, here's the list:
Leased line and real internet connection getting installed.
Engineering manager coming in to town to interview people.
30% chance I'm leaving for Switzerland that afternoon.
Wheee...
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harrison (Heather A Harrison):
{from system: This user's .plan file is longer than 10k}
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mhuang (The Holy Loud Mouth):
. . "Lard! Lard! Lard!"
... :``..': "Pigs don't sweat."
: ````.' :''::' "Who the hell are you?"
..:.. : .'' : "Don't do that with your yogurt!"
``. `: .' : "Is all that food yours?"
: : : : "Has anyone ever read _Red Planet_?"
: : : : "Zeroeth dimension?"
: : : : "Don't steal that!"
: : :..''''``::. "De Longer De Better"
: ...:..' .'' "Did anyone hear 'Russian Egg'?"
.' .' .::::' "Do you KNOW what TIME it is?"
:..'''``::::::: "That will be $10.73, please."
' `:::: "You must be joking." (immediately following)
`::. "*jiggle* *jiggle* *wiggle*" (Willis's dance)
`:: "A guy is like a bus...one every five minutes."
:::. "...and I hope you all find your zebras."
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rlcarr (Richard L. Carreiro):
[2836] dryfoo@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Scary_Thoughts 06/29/94 11:20 (3 lines)
Subject: Re: maybe i am old...
} It only gets scarier.
Absolutely.
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[2837] rnewman@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Scary_Thoughts 07/01/94 00:17 (108 lines)
Subject: NSA Agents Threaten to Kill Bidzos of RSA?
According to an article in the San Jose Mercury News, an agent
of the National Security Agency threatened to kill Jim Bidzos,
the president of RSA Data Security, Inc.
Bidzos confirmed the Mercury News story in a message to comp.org.eff.talk
and other Usenet newsgroups.
Here are the relevant Usenet articles:
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Newsgroups: talk.politics.crypto,alt.politics.org.nsa,comp.org.eff.talk
From: tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
Subject: NSA Agents Threaten to Kill Bidzos of RSA?
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:51:37 GMT
I know it sounds strange, but I have the article in front of me. I'll
excerpt it without further comment:
"The Keys to the Kingdom," David Bank, San Jose Mercury News, June 27,
1994, page D-1.
Blurb: "The government wants to be able to see private computer
communications. A Silicon Valley entrepreneur is leading the fight to
keep secret messags secret."
[stuff elided, to avoid copyright violations and because I don't feel
like typing in the whole article.]
"Take a meeting in April, for example, when three NSA agents dropped
in on Bidzos, president of RSA Data Security, Inc. For two hours,
Bidzos said, the agents were civil and pleasant as he drew diagrams,
told jokes and tried to convince them that the agency's attempts to
promote an alternative encryption scheme would fail.
"He must have said something wrong. One of the agents threatened to
run him over in the parking lot, Bidzos said.
"'He looked at me and very coldly said he would do me in,' Bidzos said.
'He clearly threatened me.'
"To Bidzos the incident--which could not be confirmed
independently--was another indication that tensions are increasing as
his eight-year struggle with the government moves into its final
stages."
[discussion of privacy, NSA, Clipper, civil rights, etc., elided]
The article closes with this quote from Jim:
"'If we are ever in danger of undermining the NSA, they will either
buy us or shoot us.'
"'We'll know when we screw up. We'll either be rich--or dead.'"
Something to contemplate. I'll make comments in followups.
--Tim May
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Newsgroups: talk.politics.crypto,alt.politics.org.nsa,comp.org.eff.talk
From: tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
Subject: Re: NSA Agents Threaten to Kill Bidzos of RSA?
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 18:28:30 GMT
Frankly, I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion of this
chilling report! Here we have the NSA--or at least an agent of the
NSA--threatening the president of the leading cryptography company,
and there's a muted response. This when a personality-oriented flame
war can generate 20 comments in two days. Jeesh.
Perhaps people dismissed it as too unbelievable, even though the
article was very clear in what happened.
In any case, Jim Bidzos has authorized me to pass on this comment:
--Begin comment by Jim Bidzos--
From jim@RSA.COM Tue Jun 28 22:21:59 1994
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Date: Tue, 28 Jun 94 22:14:34 PDT
From: jim@RSA.COM (Jim Bidzos)
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To: pcw@access.digex.net
Cc: tcmay@netcom.com
In-Reply-To: Peter Wayner's message of Mon, 27 Jun 1994 20:55:15 -0400 <19940628
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Subject: NSA Agents Threaten to Kill Bidzos of RSA?
Status: RO
Everything reported in the Merc News is true. I am certain that he was
not speaking for the agency, but when it happened he was quite
serious, at least appeared to be. There was a long silence after he
made the threat, with a staring contest. He was quite intense.
I respect and trust the other two who were in the room (they were
shocked and literally speechless, staring into their laps) and plan to
ask NSA for a written apology and confirmation that he was not
speaking for the agency. We'll see if I get it. If the incident made
it into their trip reports, I have a chance of getting a letter.
--end comment by Jim Bidzos--
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therese (Therese):
Don't jump too high, and knock out the sun
Don't stray too far, out on your own
When you finally come knocking, there'll be nobody home
Nobody home
- Heart
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