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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Central America)
Fri Feb 4 04:57:01 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 04:56:28 -0500
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dpatrick (David M Patrick):
2nd year Ph.D. student, Dept. of Mathematics
Office: 2-251, x3-7566
Address:
Room 307A
305 Memorial Drive
Cambridge, MA 02139
(617) 225-9715
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sorokin (Jessie Stickgold-Sarah):
Cornflake Girl
Tori Amos
Never was a cornflake girl
thought that was a good solution
hangin with the rasin girls
she's gone to the other side
givin us a yo heave ho
things are getting kind of gross
and i go at sleep time
this is not really happening
you bet your life it is
Peel out the watchword
just peel out the watchword
She knows what's goin on
seems we got a cheaper feel now
all the sweeteaze are gone
gone to the other side
with my encyclopedia
they musta paid her a nice price
she's puttin on her string bean love
this is not really happening
you bet your life it is
Rabbit where'd you put the keys girl
and the man with the golden gun
thinks he knows so much thinks he knows so much
Rabbit where'd you put the keys girl
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TORI: You've got to work on this record. This is not as petal-
opening as the last record. This recor is -- OK, you've got to
go in your own being to get this record. 'Cause I'm real clear
what this is. I don't have to spell things out this time. It
wasn't conscious or unconscious; it's just people that I think
are into what I'm doing are ready to take that step.
So "Cornflake," "Bells" and "Waitress" are a triangle together.
Part of this record is dealing with the betrayal of women, between
women. These three, "Cornflake" is -- I've been reading "Possessing
the Secret of Joy" by Alice Walker. I don't know if you've read
that. It went in depth of just women betraying women, and how the
mothers really sold the daughters to the butchers, and had their
genitalia removed, etc.
A lot of memory came to me. Just social memory, not necessarily
personal memory -- collective memory of how women have turned on
each other. And the concept of a sisterhood is not real. I think
that hurts me more than most concepts, because the idea that --
we've been, women have had obviously very little say in their
lives, and it's been a difficult road. See, I believe in past
lives, so I've been a man making it hard on women also. Just if
we look at it from objective viewpoints, just the history of
woman has been very lonely, and when you think that we should
support each other, understand each other, that makes sense to me.
SUN: One thing being oppressed teaches you is how to oppress others.
TORI: Yes. It's been -- again, it's the victims become the abusers.
It's that whole -- which is explored in "Waitress," too, where I
become the one who wants to slice this person's head off. But the
thing is, it's been, it's so disappointing for me when I feel
betrayed by another woman.
So "Cornflake Girl" is that disappointment. "This is not really
happening, you bet your life it is. Never was a cornflake girl,
thought that was a good solution." Cornflake being white bread,
closed. "Hanging with the raisin girls," you know, whole wheat,
multicultural, open, a little more going on. "She's gone to the
other side, giving us the yo heave ho. Things are getting kind of
gross." I think that's clear. "And I go at sleepytime, this is not
really happening. You bet your life it is."
The second verse, it just supports that whole thing. "Rabbit,
where'd you put the keys, girl?" Rabbit, in certain Indian
traditions, it represents fear. "Rabbit, where'd you put the
keys, girl? And the man with the golden gun thinks he knows so
much." Well, those are my God references again.
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starflt (Derrick Kong):
341. Be generous with backhanded compliments.
342. Try looking down your nose at newcomers.
343. Find good things to say about Richard Nixon.
344. Send mail "Postage Due."
345. Swear 'til you're blue in the face.
346. Wait five weeks to deposit checks.
347. Borrow your roommate's diaphragm.
348. Give in a glass house and throw stones.
349. Procrastinate and someone else will surely do it.
350. Eat like a horse and make a pig of yourself.
from Life's Little Destruction Book
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wamprat (Irwin Lee):
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