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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (System PRIVILEGED Account)
Wed Jun 9 23:34:35 1993

Date: Wed, 9 Jun 93 23:34:16 -0400
From: System PRIVILEGED Account <root@charon.MIT.EDU>
To: ca-mtg@bloom-beacon.mit.edu



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alindsay (Adam Taro Lindsay):

That is the way it is because it is that way
It is that way in that it is the way it is
In the way that it is that way that is the way it is
In the way that that is the way that is the way it is that is it is the way
Or, that it is that way is the way it is
The way it is that is the way it is
In that it is the way that it is is because it is that way
Or that it is the way that it is is the way that it is that
That is the way that it is the way that it is is the way that it is that way

I may not have enough of me but I've had enough of you
        -Joanna Walton "I May Not Have Enough Of Me But I've Had Enough Of You"
           from Robert Fripp's album "Exposure"

                                    Adam Lindsay
                             48 Mass Ave (Bexley 409c)
                                Cambridge, MA 02139
                                   (617)225-7599
Last logout: Wed Jun  9 16:55:44 EDT 1993 on toxicwaste (from stravinsky.media)


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alta (Kathy Peck):

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ayoung (Alaine   Young):

Currently logged on at w20-575-41.mit.edu


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bhayes (Barbara D Hayes):

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carla (Carla Jean Fermann):

Keep smilin'

  and


Sell some O.J.!



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cfields (Craig Fields):

Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,alt.religion.kibology
From: trystro!rick@think.com (Richard E. Nickle)
Subject: Re: GNU Hello version 1.2 released
Date: Sat, 22 May 1993 12:27:12 GMT

In article <9305220021.AA06425@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu> elvis@graceland.gnu.ai.mit.edu writes:
>GNU Hello version 1.2 is now available via anonymous FTP from
>prep.ai.mit.edu [18.71.0.38] in the file /pub/gnu/hello-1.2.tar.Z
>(about 105k compressed).  Context diffs from version 1.1 are available
>in the file /pub/gnu/hello-1.1-1.2.diff.Z (about 27k bcompressed).
>
>This version fixes all reported bugs in version 1.1,
>and adds a few features.  See the `NEWS' file for details.
>
>The GNU Hello program produces a familiar, friendly greeting.  It
>allows nonprogrammers to use a classic computer science tool which
>would otherwise be unavailable to them.
>
>The GNU version of this classic program provides numerous
>enhancements over previous implementations, devised by the 
>GNU Hello Development Team.
>
>Send all bug reports for GNU Hello to bug-gnu-hello@prep.ai.mit.edu.
>If you have other questions or comments about GNU Hello, please send
>me mail at elvis@graceland.gnu.ai.mit.edu.
>
>enjoy -elvis

On Friday Evening, my attornies brought a suit against Elvis, Richard
Stallman, and James "Kibo" Parry, specifically addressing the outright
theft of my proprietary source in the GNU Project's 'hello' application.

GNU's 'hello' application has a similar 'look and feel' to a program
I copyrighted and trademarked in 1974 called 'howdy'.  I have extensive
documentation and depositions from the FTC to back my claim.

A similar suit will be brought against Apple Computer on Monday for
their use of the 'smiley face' boot icon, which has a substantial
resemblance to a happy face I pasted on to a Televideo 925 in 1980.

-- 
richard nickle		rick@trystro.uucp	617-625-7155 v.32/v.42bis
			think!trystro!rick	somerville massachusetts
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From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU Hello version 1.2 released
Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 19:23:15 MDT

trystro!rick@think.com (Richard E. Nickle) writes:

>>GNU Hello version 1.2 is now available via anonymous FTP from
> 
> GNU's 'hello' application has a similar 'look and feel' to a program
> I copyrighted and trademarked in 1974 called 'howdy'.  I have extensive
> documentation and depositions from the FTC to back my claim.

I wouldn't bother trying this in court, as I have punch cards from
1968 for the defining program named `HEY'.  I believe the program was
also published in CACM - I'll have to check for volume/issue information.
-- 
Russell Schulz  russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca  ersys!rschulz  Shad 86c
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From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: GNU Hello version 1.2 released
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1993 19:41:26 GMT

On Wed, 2 Jun 1993 15:03:47 GMT, andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman) said:

Andy> russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) writes:
>I wouldn't bother trying this in court, as I have punch cards from
>1968 for the defining program named `HEY'.  I believe the program was
>also published in CACM - I'll have to check for volume/issue information.

Andy> It isn't in the Collected Algorithms? Why the hell not! :-)

Probably because they already had my "YooHoo" program, which I sent
them on paper tape in 1966.
--
Mary Shafer  DoD #362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@ferhino.dfrf.nasa.gov                 Of course I don't speak for NASA
 "A MiG at your six is better than no MiG at all."  Unknown US fighter pilot


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ckclark (Calvin Clark):

THE EAGLE (A FRAGMENT)   	Alfred, Lord Tennyson

He clasps the crag with crooked hands;
Close to the sun in lonely lands,
Ring'd with the azure world, he stands.

The wrinkled sea beneath him crawls;
He watches from his mountain walls,
And like a thunderbolt he falls.


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dill (Angie Hinrichs):

:)
I'm working in Palo Alto, CA at Xerox PARC 
on a linear logic approach to natural language processing.  
YEEHAW!

	ASH				(415) 949-3963  home
	2680 Fayette Dr.  #616 		(415) 812-4738  work
	Mountain View, CA  94040

all email is forwarded to hinrichs@parc.xerox.com



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dryfoo (Gary L. Dryfoos):

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Calvin says,

			       BE CAREFUL
				   or
			      BE ROADKILL!


Roadkill Buffet will be performing this summer in the Courtyard at One
Kendall Square, starting June 9th.

	    Roadkill Buffet at 8:00pm, more comedy at 8:30.

		    Watch this info for more space.

			    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(for Free and Highly Entertaining information on how YOU can own a
profitable KREL distributorship in your area, for a very small
investment write to

	KREL, Inc.
        % Lt. Col. Philip A. Goldman, USAF-Ret.
	55 Todd St.
        Warwick, RI 02888
        USA

     Enclose SASE.  Use No Hooks!  Dilute!  Okay!  All-One! Okay!)


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hch (Hernando Cortina):

Why are these athletic shoe salesmen following me??


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higgy (James Higginbotham):

  My e-mail address in Oxford is:

		higgy@ox.ac.uk

E-mail to me here at athena will be forwarded.  But since the Oxford
address is now operative you may just as well send mail there.

	PRO(i) be excellent to each other(i).




  


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hungy (Super vir):


Life


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jcbourne (Juliet C Bourne):

but what if i'm a mermaid in these jeans of his with her name still on
it hey but i don't care cause sometimes i said sometimes i hear my voice
and it's been HERE silent all this years

		--"Silent All These Years", _Little Earthquakes_, Tori Amos


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jtkohl (John T Kohl):

For the new CA, when it arrives:

a new verse for "Particle Man":

	Trampoline man, trampoline man,
	Does everything a trampoline can.
	Is he a spring or is he a mass?
	Trampoline man.

and a gem from Phil Karn:

Voluntary key escrow is like the tollbooth gag in "Blazing Saddles".


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jyip (Jason Yip):

Last logout: Wed Jun  9 16:05:32 EDT 1993 from alfredo


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kagraves (Kenneth A Graves):

Of [Bosnian citizens in 1981 census], 40% told census-takers they were
Muslim, 30% Serbs, and 17% Croats. The rest, some sick of national
stereotyping, listed themselves as Yugoslavs, Turks, Jews, Gypsies,
Eskimos, Giraffes or Lampshades.


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kinhong (Kinhong Kan):

Hmm... good question.



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lorianne (Lori A Weldon):

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lwvanels (Lucien W. Van Elsen):

My NY address is:

		Lucien Van Elsen
		Rural Route 3 Box 185A
		89 Steuben Road
		Continental Village, NY 10566

Email address:
		lucien@watson.ibm.com


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marc (Marc Horowitz):

From: blgould@panix.com (Bradley Gould)
Newsgroups: (lots!  see the end of the post)
Subject: Let's Build a Space Ship!
Date: 30 May 1993 17:54:10 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
NNTP-Posting-Host: sun.panix.com
Keywords: Security Issues

    Hi. I was hoping that title would catch your attention.  Yes, I do
propose that we build a spaceship.  And not just a more powerful rocket,
(fusion or otherwise).  I'm talking about a balls-to-the-wall, full-bore,
maximum overdrive, rip up the spaceways, rock-n-roll-it-ship!

    I'll tell you right now I have no qualifications for my participation
in this "project", other than a rabid curiosity and a deep sense of faith
in humanity's destiny as a star-faring race.  If you share that curiosity
and conviction, read on...

HISTORY:

    This idea has grown out of my fascination with UFOs.  I have spent a
number of years quietly compiling a body of facts regarding sightings,
dating back as far as 1549.  I have expressly avoided association with
MUFON, CUFOS, etc., to keep my research as unbiased as possible.  (I
must admit, however, that one of my prized posessions is a picture I
took of J. Allen Hynek in Brewster, N.Y. shortly before he died.)

    I believe our planet HAS been, and continues to be, visited by space-
craft from other races.  I further believe that these races have varying
degrees of technological expertise.  Some are dirtier (more radioactive),
than others.  Some prefer robotic investigations; others seem to prefer
the "personal touch".  (Although even these may be alien "androids",
bioengineered to avoid the danger of direct contact, and/or to present
a more "humanoid" and thus, less threatening form.)

    I only have a peripheral interest in CE3K issues, though.  Like an
Iron-Age Ox Cart driver confronted by a time traveller in a 68' GTO,
what I'm REALLY interested in is sitting behind the steering wheel of
that sucker!  If that means I have to humor the guy with the ignition
key, well...


THE GUY WITH THE IGNITION KEY ISSUES:

    Obviously, we don't have E.T. standing before us, dangling a key-
chain.  However, we DO need to consider those to whom such a project
represents a clear and unacceptable loss of control.  I don't believe
the reduction in manned spaceflights has been due solely to budgetary
constraints.  It's simply a matter of logistics.  America exists solely
because it was too costly in the long run to subjugate economically.
Our government and business leaders realize that a guy on Mars might
not exhibit the same respect for Authority that an Earth-bound citizen
with nowhere to run would.  Forget someone on Epsilon Eridani IV.

    Each participant to this endeavor must be in it for the jazz.  However,
I know there will be property issues at stake here.  We therefore need to
establish some legally airtight method of individual recognition for any
technologies which come out of this project.  I think we need to look
beyond the US Patent Office.  The big-boys have that whole office in their
pockets.

    I also realize we're talking about technologies with obvious weapons
applications.  We need to establish a secure method of communications to
protect this project from the "nihilistic set".

    I wish we lived in a more just and sane world, but unfortuately we
still have to look out for the parasites and sociopaths in high places.


ASSUMPTIONS:

While we iron out how to proceed, surrounded by the "pragmatists" described
above, I think I can suggest some directions in exploring the technologies
which have brought these craft to our little blue marble...

Based upon the fragments found in Las Cruces, NM I would say we have quite
a few technical issues to resolve before we can go a-wanderin'.  This is
why you will find this same message repeated in a large number of news
groups detailed below.

    The most interesting UFOs to me, exhibit incredible speeds and
maneuverability.  (The GTOs of the spaceways, if you will.)  I
believe that these particular UFOs manage to generate a "bubble of
relative space/time" different from ours.  This explanation would allow
the craft to be "relatively" stationary to a given set of space/time
coordinates, yet accelerating at incredible velocities relative to
another set.

    By creating such a bubble, two problems are solved simultaneously.
First, how do you protect a spacecraft's occupants at high speed from
G-forces and cosmic debris impact?  Secondly, how do you overcome the
inertial mass/energy penalties inherent in velocities approaching and
exceeding the speed of light (C)?

    The only way I can see to create such a bubble is to "suggest" to
local sub-atomic entities that they're really somewhere/when else in
relative space/time; to "con" them, if you will, into believing they
are relative to a completely different set of space/time coordinates.

    This "suggestive" approach to sub-atomic manipulation is a key premise
of Greg Bear's SF novel 'Anvil of Stars'. Greg postulates that there is a
"data exchange" which occurs between elemental entities along priviledged
channels which may not even exist within our universe.  In his book, he
approaches the subject from the perspective of communications and weapons
systems.  I have always thought of it in terms of propulsion systems.

    How would one generate such a relativity bubble?  I think, by looking
at this problem as a "perceptual" one.  I've always found the Heisenberg
uncertainty principle fascinating.  I also find Schroedinger's cat-in-the-
box problem very interesting.  If we could design a self cognizant computer
of such positional precision and certainty about it's own coordiates that
it could actually influence the Heisenberg plot of subatomic relationships
in a local radius large enough to encompass a spacecraft...

    This "relativity box" would have to be something very different from
any other computer developed to date.  It would need the ability to so
accurately simulate "being" somewhere/when else, that local phenomena
are forced to doubt their priveledged channel positional messages and
rewrite their own messages to conform to the simulation.  It would have
to be able to perform this subatomic slight-of-hand with absolutely no
human perceptual intervention.  The cat MUST stay in the box at all times.

      Were I a theorist (which I'm not), I would look at achieving a
multi-dimensional array of Permanent Standing Wave (PSW) functions to
simulate the local relational matrix and then apply another complete set
of coordinates for a totally different matrix.  I would, furthermore,
look at a "holographic" model to describe this matrix.

    I don't know of a computer capable of coercing sub-atomic phenomena
into rewriting their positional data streams, but I DO feel that this
is a key technology to achieving the sort of vehicular performance
reported by UFO sightings; in the same sense that contemporary computers
control the flight surfaces of high-performance jet aircraft; aircraft
which would otherwise drop out of the sky like stones.

(Please note that the Las Cruces UFO appeared to have crashed during a
lightning storm.  Could this have been due to computer overload?)

    Here are the news groups in which this message is repeated:

    alt.activism                            alt.cyberpunk
    alt.cyberpunk.tech                      alt.dcom.telecom
    alt.alien.visitors                      alt.fractals
    alt.hackers                             alt.individualism
    alt.privacy                             alt.rock-n-roll
    alt.security                            alt.sci.physics.acoustics
    alt.sci.physics.new-theories            alt.security.pgp
    alt.society.civil-liberty               alt.society.futures
    alt.society.revolution                  comp.ai
    comp.ai.genetic                         comp.ai.neural-nets
    comp.cog-eng                            comp.security.misc
    comp.society                            comp.software.licensing
    comp.specification                      comp.theory.dynamic-sys
    comp.theory.self-org-sys                misc.activism.progressive
    misc.entrepreneurs                      misc.int-property
    misc.legal.computing                    sci.astro
    sci.bio.technology                      sci.cognitive
    sci.cryonics                            sci.energy
    sci.engr.biomed                         sci.engr.control
    sci.fractals                            sci.geo.fluids
    sci.geo.meteorology                     sci.materials
    sci.math.symbolic                       sci.nanotech
    sci.optics                              sci.philosophy.meta
    sci.philosophy.tech                     sci.physics
    sci.physics.fusion                      sci.physics.research
    sci.psychology                          sci.skeptic
    sci.space                               talk.politics.space

P.S.

    PLEASE do not send me any E-Mail on CE3K unless you know of an E.T.
with detailed blueprints for what we're trying to achieve here.  Do NOT
send me anything you value as an intellectual property until the legal
and security issues have been resolved.

    If you, or someone you know, is in Public Relations, the media, etc.,
this could be very helpful in keeping the McCarthy wannabe's opening Coke
bottles with their butts instead of molesting honest, hard-working, space
cowboys like us.

    If you know how to set up an alt.newsgroup for this venture, please
let me know.

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Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp
From: grady@netcom.com (1016/2EF221)
Subject: Re: Let's Build a Space Ship!
Organization: capriccioso
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 31 May 1993 00:18:08 GMT

You're already in orbit; wave 'hi!' on your next pass.

-- 
grady@netcom.com  2EF221 / 15 E2 AD D3 D1 C6 F3 FC  58 AC F7 3D 4F 01 1E 2F



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mmlee (Mark M Lee):

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MIT IBM PS/2 & PC Users Group Team Leader

Term Address: Westgate 1107
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              Cambridge, MA 02139
              (617) 621-2515
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	      (617) 374-5052 (fax)

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rjbarbal (Richard J. Barbalace):

If you're looking for me, you might want to check at:
	Tau Epsilon Phi (Room 52)
	253 Commonwealth Avenue
	Boston, MA  02116-1609
	(617) 262-5090
	(Me?  Answer a telephone?  Surely you jest.)
I almost certainly will not be there, but hey. :-)

-----
When in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes
I all alone beweep my outcast state,
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
And look upon myself and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possessed,
Desiring this man's art, and that man's scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
Haply I think on thee - and then my state,
Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven's gate;
  For thy sweet love remembered, such wealth brings
  That then I scorn to change my state with kings.
			- William Shakespeare

     "I can't understand you.  Do you mean to say that
you...have let him live on after all those horrible deeds?
Now at any rate he is as bad as an Orc, and just an enemy.
He deserves death."
     "Deserves it!  I daresay he does.  Many that live
deserve death.  And some that die deserve life.  Can you
give it to them?  Then do not be too eager to deal out death
in judgement.  For even the very wise cannot see all ends."
			- "The Fellowship of the Ring", J.R.R. Tolkien


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rnewman (Ron Newman):

Home address: 18 Day St. #310, Somerville MA 02144
Home phone:  (617) 628-8895.





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sconahan (Steven G Conahan):

Free at last, free at last.....

Farewell MIT!!!



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sekullbe (Scott E Kullberg):

I've moved for the summer, into what I believe will be my room for the
rest of my sojourn at the Institiute:
	Senior House, Atkinson 107
	x5-6606

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"Clinton wants us to sacrifice - We should start with the politicians.
 Which do you recommend - burning at the stake, an altar & knife job, or the
 tried-and-true 'Plug the Volcano' method?"

"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can
  bribe the people with their own money."  Alexis de Tocqueville

"25 States allow anyone to buy a gun, strap it on, and walk down the street with
no permit of any kind: some say it's crazy.  However, 4 out of 5 US murders are 
committed in the other half of the country: so who is crazy?"   -  Andrew Ford

"You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a
reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating
the very phrases which our founding fathers used in their struggle for
independence."  -- C. A. Beard

I have always been made sad when I have heard members of any race claiming
rights and privileges, or certain badges of distinction, on the ground
simply that they were members of this or that race, regardless of their own
individual worth or attainments.             --Booker T. Washington

(1) Ignorance of your profession is best concealed by solemnity and silence,
which pass for profound knowledge upon the generality of mankind.
                -------"Advice to Officers of the British Army", 1783

Two things I'd like to see: more liberals who know why we need the NRA, and
more conservatives who know why we need the ACLU.
     -jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov


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starflt (Derrick Kong):


Love, American Style

The Zero Population Growth Foundation of Washington, D.C., designated
February 14 as "Love Carefully Day" and distributed Valentine cards
emblazoned with red condoms.

				from No Comment


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tanis (Weip Chen):

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tiuzzol (Terri Iuzzolino):

Hi.  My home phone has changed to 225-6575.

Mailing address:
3 Ames St., Box 317
Cambridge, Mass. 02139

Room:  515 Bemis, East Campus 

Work:
If you can't find me at home, or online, try 

MIT Museum (During business hours) x3-4440
     or
finger @masala.lcs.mit.edu
If I'm on, then NE43-632, x3-7768  (most likely later at night)

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Arise, My Love 
  Michael Card/Scott Brasher

Arise, my love, my lovely one come
The winter is past and the rains are gone
The flowers appear, it's the season of song
My beautiful one, arise and come with me

Who is it that appears like the dawn?
As fair as the moon, as bright as the sun
Show me your face, let me hear your voice
My beautiful one, arise and come with me

Set me like a seal on your heart
For love is unyielding as the grave
The flash of it is a jealous fire
No flood can quench
For love is as strong as death

Arise, my love and come with me
Before the dawn breaks and the shadows flee
You ravished my heart with just one glance
My beautiful one, arise and come with me

Set me like a seal on your heart
For love is unyielding as the grave
The flash of it is a jealous fire
No flood can quench
For love is as strong as death
Do not arouse or awaken love
Until it so desires

Arise, my love, my lovely one come
The winter is past and the rains are gone
The flowers appear, it's the season of song
My beautiful one, arise and come with me
I am my love's, my beloved is mine
Arise and come with me


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Cambridge, MA   02139

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tompalka (tom palka):

 home:  11 phillips street, apt. 7, boston, ma 02114
phone:  772-9482 (home)



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umesh (Umesh Maheshwari):

Home:   655 South Fair Oaks Ave, D302
        Sunnyvale, CA
        Ph 408-739-5543

Office: DEC SRC
        130 Lytton Ave, 3E
        Palo Alto, CA 94301
        Ph. 415-853-2188

My address for the rest of this year:

Home :  341 Hurley St, #3
        Cambridge, MA 02141
        Ph. (617)-868-4918

Office: 545 Tech Square, Room#527
        Cambridge, MA 02139
        Ph. (617)-253-6015



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