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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Initializer.SysDaemon)
Wed Mar 18 01:33:41 1992

Date: Wed, 18 Mar 92 01:32:43 EST
From: root@charon.MIT.EDU (Initializer.SysDaemon)
To: ca-mtg@bloom-beacon.mit.edu



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amberle (Amberle S Ferrian):


Beast:  I want to do something special for her.  But what?
Cogsworth:  Well, there are the usual--flowers, chocolates, promises you don't
		intend to keep...

					Walt Disney's "Beauty and the Beast"



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amgreene (Andrew Marc Greene):

Utzu Etzah V'Tufar, Dabru Davar V'lo Yakoom; Ki Imanu Kel.

Plan against us, it will come to naught, for God will assist us.


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bjaspan (Barr3y Jaspan):

	DEAR MISS MANNERS -- Although this question is purely hypothetical, I
have been troubled about it for years.
	If a lady or gentleman were a bank robber, should he or she use
conventions of etiquette such as ``please'' and ``thank you'' in plying
his or her trade?
	I hope no one will need this information, but for the sake of
curiosity, I must ask.
	GENTLE READER -- All right, all right, Miss Manners believes you. She
thinks. The fact that she gripped her hand over the clasp of her
pocketbook when you approached is purely coincidental.
	If your question is whether politeness would help a bank robber
advance in his or her profession, the answer is probably no (although it
may well be of assistance to a jewel thief, embezzler or anyone else
whose doings are made easier by charm and trust). As far as conveying
deference is concerned, there is just not that much difference between 
``Stick 'em up'' and ``Stick 'em up, please.''
	But the more interesting question, which is the one Miss Manners
hopes you are asking, is whether a person who has no morals should also
do without manners, for the sake of some kind of pseudo-honorable
consistency.
	Because astute people have noticed that a person can have manners
without having morals, they condemn manners for being misleading. It is
also, of course, possible to have morals without manners. We have quite
a few people like that nowadays, who go around rudely making other
people feel terrible for not measuring up to their standards, in
everything from body weight to philosophical commitments.
	Obviously it is better to have both morals and manners. Miss Manners
does not deny that morality is the more serious virtue, but wishes to
point out that the two are related. The chief premise of manners is a
readiness to temper one's selfish wishes for the communal good, which is
not a bad place to start building morality. In fact, family etiquette --
``Don't hit the baby, who has feelings just like yours'' -- is usually
the first lesson in morality.
	So the worst case is to have neither manners nor morals.
	A bank robber who follows the forms of consideration toward others
may, sooner or later, come to understand that robbing banks is a
violation of that principle.


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cardinal (Edward J Olebe):

to get tan?...don't come to Boston.





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celine (Hagbard Celine):


ange-ftp is scary




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ckclark (Calvin Clark):

VNS VOGONBALLS:                                 [Dick Binder, VNS Humour Editor]
===============                                 [Nashua, NH, USA               ]

    "The side-effects women experience with silicon breast implants
    are slight and largely unknown."

				- BBC World Service report
				- Dean Jones, Nijmegen, The Netherlands

    "The word genius isn't applicable in football.  A genius is a guy
    like Norman Einstein."

				- Joe Theismann, ESPN commentator
				- from Dave Oran and Margaret Loper
				(sneezy)

    "We are now able to see the invisible errors."

				- Unidentified colleague
				- from Joe DeLellis (Colorado Springs, CO, USA)

    "The team is clearly behind the bandwagon."

				- Unidentified colleague
				_ from Andria Frost (Colorado Springs, CO, USA)

    "Coming up is her required optional jump."

				- Scott Hamilton during Olympic Figure Skating
				- from Bob Mullins (Hudson, MA, USA)

    Player 1:	Which one's the small one?
    Player 2:	The one that's smallest.

				- Discussion re on the size of dice
				- from David Cohen (Reading, England)

    "BUY AMERICAN !!  Silver City Dodge and Hyundai"

				- Newspaper ad, The Enterprise (Brockton, MA)
				- from Paul Tinkham (Chelmsford, MA, USA)

    "I reckon the keeper would have been struggling had that one gone in".

				- BBC football commentator, England V France


    "You can ski ugly and you can still win.  That's the beauty  of
    this sport."

				- Winter Olympics skiing commentator
				- from Dierdre Tyman (Littleton, MA, USA)

    "I can't begin to tell you about all of these apple varieties, but
    at least I'll make a beginning..."

				- Marcia Adams - Heartland Cooking (PBS)
				- from Henry Apfelbaum (Maynard, MA, USA)

    "Few had predicted it and even fewer thought it was possible."

				- Internal Digital newsletter on USSR breakup
				- from David Flatman (Los Angeles, CA, USA)

    "When these services were free, people just gave them away."

				- Unidentified Digital Presenter
				- from Joe Furmanski (Novi, MI, USA)

    Play-by-play announcer:	 UCLA is now shooting only 12 of 23 from
				 the foul line!
    Color announcer Dick Vitale: You don't have to be a mathematical
				 genius, baby, to  figure out that's
				 not even 50% shooting!"

				- from Leo Talbot (Merrimack, NH, USA)

    "Sankt Poelten, cloudy, 2 degrees.  Linz -- uuh, what's this?! 
    [Screaming] They haven't got a  temperature, AT ALL!!!  [Aside] Do
    you know, why  they haven't got a temperature?  [Continuing] Well,
    let's give  them a Big Zero!"

				- Stewart Freeman, Blue Danube Radio
				- from Walter Oslansky (Vienna Austria)


    ***  And here's the most recent crop of Colemanballs from Private  ***
    ***  Eye, thanks to Nick Hill, Paris, France		       ***

    "In fact, the music in 'Children of fen' is not as bad as it sounds."

				- Sheridan Morley, BBC Radio 2

    "It takes two teams to make a final - and Widnes have done just that."

				- Ray French

    "Fortunately there's no surface water lying on top of the pitch."

				- Jimmy Armfield, BBC Radio 5

    "If it comes to penalties - one of these two great sides could go 
    out on the whim of a ball."

				- Peter Reeve, Radio 4

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cyrus (Cyrus Shaoul):

Youth of today!  Join me in a mass rally for traditional mental attitudes!


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kenneths (Kenneth J. Schneider):

Address at Theta Chi:        Address at Home:
528 Beacon Street            4005 Birdwell
Boston, MA  02215            Tyler, TX 75703
(617) 267-1801 ext. 142      (903) 581-0216


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livewire (Live Wire):

GETTING THE HELL OUTTA DODGE!!! YIP!!! YIP!!


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mczody (Michael C. Zody):

Stratomatic Hockey 1991-92

Team		W   L	T	Pts	GIH	Projected

Chicago		24  13	3	51	-	51
Montreal	15  13	6	36	6	42.4
Boston		16  12	1	33	11	45.5
NY Rangers	13  21	3	29	3	31.4
Los Angeles	9   13	4	22	14	33.8
Detroit		8   13	3	19	16	31.7

Missing Stats:
CHI 3 @ DET 2:  CHI stats
DET 6 @ MON 1:  MON stats
MON 2 @ BOS 5:  MON stats
LAK 2 @ DET 3:  LAK stats
DET 2 @ LAK 2:  LAK stats
CHI:  two games, probably the unknown MON games
 
 Away:	BOS	CHI	DET	LAK	MON	NYR	Record
Home:	-------------------------------------------
BOS		4-0	5-2	3-1	5-8	0-3	7-8-0
		1-2	5-4		4-2	5-8
		2-3			3-4	4-2
		7-4			2-5	3-2
	-------------------------------------------
CHI	3-1		2-7	0-4	4-2	3-2	8-9-3
	6-1		3-1	5-6	3-2	1-4
	4-1		0-4	3-4	3-2	4-4
	3-3		3-1	2-3	4-4	3-7
	-------------------------------------------
DET	7-3	2-0		2-3	3-3	6-3	2-9-1
		3-2			4-3	2-3
		5-2			3-2	2-1
		3-1
	-------------------------------------------
LAK	3-4	6-3	1-7		4-1	3-3	4-7-3
		5-3	2-2		7-0	0-1
		3-0			3-3	5-4
		3-2				3-4
	-------------------------------------------
MON	0-1	3-2	6-1	3-2		5-4	5-8-3
	3-2	2-3	3-3	5-5		1-4
	5-3	0-4				1-2
	6-4	3-2				5-5
	-------------------------------------------
NYR	2-1	6-2	2-4	2-3	3-2		6-12-0
	3-2	5-1	7-3	5-2	2-4
	3-4	2-1		5-2	2-7
	3-5	2-0		3-1	2-0
	-------------------------------------------
	BOS	CHI	DET	LAK	MON	NYR
Record	9-4-1	16-4-0	6-4-2	5-6-1	10-5-3	7-9-3

League-wide:  53 road wins, 32 home wins, 10 ties




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rei (Cynic):

Course 54 Thesis: Linear Acceleration Engineering

The thesis in Course 54 is quick, easy, and fun.  Possible lab fee of
$500.  Students dissatisfied with their current courses or with job
prospects after graduation are invited to join Course 54; it will make
all problems go away permanently.

New!
Course 54 Thesis Option: Second Party Linear Acceleration Engineering

For those who wish to make a stronger impact with their theses, Course
54 provides overhead costs for those ambitious students who feel their
problems won't go away with the successful completion of a normal
thesis.  All the excitement of the regular thesis, plus a greater
feeling of accomplishment.  Course 54 will not help students seeking
to engage Course 54 staff in this optional course, however.
Variations on this thesis are possible for those double majoring in
Explosives Engineering (Course 5.3) or Theoretical Firearm Violence
(Course 9.1).  All disgruntled and frustrated students are invited to
try this new course.


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rjbarbal (Richard J. Barbalace):

...Despite what some psychologists say, no one really has the slightest idea
what a woman (or, for that matter, what a man) is.  We do know that whatever
a woman is, it is hidden under thousands of years of oppression.  We will need
at least a century of living in a society devoid of prescribed role divisions
to begin to answer that question.  Since everyone is operating in the dark,
the two prevalent views among feminists, and the views of others, are all
simply opinions, or perhaps intuitions.
     The opinion of many women today is that there are no important differences
between men and women, with the exception of anatomy; all the rest is simply
conditioning.  In most societies that we know about, child raising and domestic
chores are done by women, but there are a few societies in which this is not
true; anthropology has shown us societies where women exhibit those character-
istics we tend to think of as "male":  concern and involvement in warfare,
politics, and so forth.  And there are societies where men exhibit character-
istics we tend to label "female".  The advantage of this view is that it
produces a great amount of freedom from role stereotyping.  It leaves us free
to become what we want to become.  [One woman], for example, once told me
that she had been raped by a woman, one of the most horrible experiences of
her life.  To repeat her words, "I think that the great mystery of our society
is that men and women are exactly alike and this truth is hidden from us...."
     Another view, accepted by many feminists, is that there is, in fact, a
specifically female nature.  Freud, we know, said that biology is destiny.
And while most feminists would oppose his interpretations, not all of them
oppose his idea.  Feminist writer Sally Gearhart has repeatedly said that
women are receptive; they are nurturers; they are the source of life, the
symbol of creativity; they are more intuitive and more magical than men.
"We are not only those things," she writes, "but neither is it accurate to
say `we are also aggressors, penetrators, attackers, etc.'"  The advantage
of this view is that it gives a convincing explanation for the present rape
of the earth, the abuses of technology, and the desperate need to return to
a world centered on woman....  A world ruled by women would be a better world,
the argument goes; end male dominance, and human beings will live again in
harmony with nature.


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starflt (Derrick Kong):


WHAT IS IT?

In Avalon Hill's Starship Troopers, the Terran player's units cannot
distinguish between tanks and infantry at a distance of one mile.

					from Murphy's Rules


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therese (Therese):


	So high above the world tonight,
	The angels watch us sleeping
	And underneath a bridge of stars,
	We dream in safety's keeping
	But perhaps the dream
	Is dreaming us
	Soaring with the seagulls
	Perhaps the dream
	Is dreaming us
	Astride the backs of eagles

		- Sting
		  The Soul Cages



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