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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Wed Jul 12 01:36:21 1989
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 89 01:36:38 EDT
From: root@CHARON.MIT.EDU (Initializer.SysDaemon)
To: ca-mtg@BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU
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bjaspan (Barr3y Jaspan):
Mel Blanc died yesterday.
Laurence Olivier died today.
"It is The Way.. a way to be accepted
with sadness, but not despair,
for it is good way..."
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dstaylor (David S Taylor):
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henry (Henry Hensch):
quote of the day:
"where's my telephone?"
-- the b52's
i'm coming back ... details are below:
UA 132 16 July SFO-BOS 09.59-20.20
--
<you'll find me here usually, but between 4th february and 30th june
you will find me
,-_|\
/ \ <-- here!
\_,-._/
v
when i'm here, i'm on the staff of MIT's Project Athena ... more
details available upon requeset (but no answers until 17 july!)
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hindmost (Brian R. Murphy):
I am in San Jose this summer, working at IBM's
Almaden Research Center on functional languages.
You can send me mail here (I read it sporadically)
or to my account at IBM (takes a few minutes longer,
but I'm guaranteed to read it on any weekday).
So try:
murphy@ibm.com
or, if you prefer bitnet (probably a lose): murphy%almvma.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu
If you want to use more conventional forms of communication:
My address:
1090 Foxchase Drive, Apt 172
San Jose, CA 95123
(408) 267-1838 <home>
(408) 927-1863 <work>
Dot
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jik (Jonathan I. Kamens):
My address and phone number at home can be found in ~jik/.sig, if you
really need to reach me.
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Vietnam veteran supports Supreme Court
By James W. Sandoz
BALTIMORE -- Recently I watched a tape of the demonstration in which
Gregory Lee Johnson burned Old Glory.
A group of (presumably) fellow members of the Revolutionary
Communist Youth Brigade cheered and danced.
It appeared to me to be a rather small demonstration, as such things
go.
The exact nature of the rally was not made clear, except that it was
at the site of the 1984 Republican National Convention in Dallas.
Since Republicans and communists have little in common, it was easy
to deduce the roots of the dissent.
I had two reactions.
The first was surprise that it took until 1984 for someone to be
charged who would appeal.
(Johnson appealed his conviction, but Texas took the case to the
Supreme Court.)
I assume similar charges were common in the late '60s and early
'70s.
The flag then was abused routinely by people appalled by the
prospect of military service during a war thought unjust.
It was burned, made into garments and even stitched onto the seats
of the ragged blue jeans of those who opted for the power of flowers.
Where none of these prosecuted? Did none of them appeal?
The second reaction was really a memory -- of how furious I had
been! I had heard little of the anti-war demonstrations until I
enlisted and was serving under Old Glory in the country whose very
name still stirs passions in the United States.
I and my friends were sweating in jungles where we were at constant
risk from bullets, rockets, booby traps and land mines.
There were other dangers as well: malaria, dysentery, fungal
infections and exotic diseases unheard of here.
One member of a neighboring company was even dragged away at night
by a tiger.
We were in no frame of mind to be told that we were part of an
immoral, unjustified, exploitative excursion crafted by politicians and
generals whose only motive was the subjugation of a geographic area.
The protesters were evil and we were good; we were answering the
call of our country.
And the ultimate insult was the burning of our flag.
Bhat what is the flag?
To me it represents the good that is the United States: the
acceptance of refugees from lands of turmoil, the freedoms we enjoy
and the support of freedoms elsewhere, the people.
To others it is the bad that is the United States: the racism that
still exists, the toleration of homelessness, the corruption of some
elected officials.
I have heard on some of the local talk shows that honorable people
have gone to war for the flag, that the flag is sacred, that those who
abuse the flag should be punished.
Poppycock!
Those of us who have gone to war, those of us who have not come
back, those of us who revere the United States do so regardless of the
pattern that Betsy Ross had sewn. Whatever the flag conjures in one's
mind, it is still a piece of cloth.
Should patriots be offended by misuses of the flag? Of course.
Should dissidents be legally permitted to misuse the flag? Of
course.
The dissident's goal is to offend the comfortable. As long as the
offensive behavior is not dangerous or inciting, it should be
permitted. Not welcome, but permitted.
The options are frightful. Look to China for an example of other
ways to treat dissidents.
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(Sandoz, a Vietnam veteran, wrote this for the Baltimore Evening Sun.)
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paul (Paul Boutin):
Obvious flag of the day:
f Fold upper case letters onto lower case.
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rmartell (Robert Martello):
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tjcoppet (Tom Coppeto):
It's a big enough umbrella
But it's always me that ends up getting wet...
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