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Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:59:24 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Franz <snowhare@netimages.com> To: Mike Meyer <mwm@contessa.phone.net> Cc: www-talk@w3.org In-Reply-To: <19960129.75D65A0.A224@contessa.phone.net> Resent-From: www-talk@w3.org On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Mike Meyer wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > Just specifying text/netscape-html probably works for 90% of the > > I disagree, although I'd like to be able to agree. If Netscape had > > implemented this when they first added extensions to HTML, this would be > > workable. > > If NetScape had done that, we'd also have lots of real-world > experience doing content negotiation. > > > This is a stopgap solution, but it doesn't fill the 'gap'. Old versions > > of Netscape and other browsers would prevent this from working. > > I agree completely. However, this argument applies to ANY stopgap > solution. It also hinders a "complete" solution - content providers > have to either deal with older browsers (including the NetScape 0.9 > I'm still getting hits from) or ignore them. I personally would ignore 0.9. Out of 41,118 sessions in my current tracking database only 427 were from a version of Netscape 0.9. 0.9 is simply not even worth worrying about. 1.0 only marginally worth considering (*together* they are only about 4.3% of all sessions). After despoofing MSIE, here is my top twenty (sorted only by manufacturer, not version). I don't rember what 'avberg@bgd.nl' is; possibly a broken bot that generated a bunch of bogus sessions a month or so ago while trying to do a depth first indexing. Percent Browser 77.2% Mozilla 6.38% Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.67% AOL 2.22% SPRY_Mosaic 1.49% PRODIGY-WB 1.10% NCSA Mosaic 0.95% avberg@bgd.nl 0.92% AIR_Mosaic(16bit) 0.86% IBM WebExplorer 0.84% Lynx 0.82% NetCruiser 0.52% NetManage Chameleon 0.35% GNNworks 0.21% Enhanced NCSA Mosaic 0.14% QuarterDeck Mosaic 0.11% MacWeb 0.10% (Not reported) 0.09% Charlotte 0.08% eworldbrowser 0.06% Spyglass_Mosaic The numbers were obtained via session tracking information on a site that counts only the 'first touch' - the first time a browser touched the site during a session. It also uses almost every trick I know to defeat caching. -- Benjamin Franz
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