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Re: Netscape 2.0 beta MS windows 95 virus

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kee Hinckley)
Tue Nov 7 10:29:10 1995

Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 10:25:05 -0500
To: mwm@contessa.phone.net (Mike Meyer)
From: nazgul@utopia.com (Kee Hinckley)
Cc: www-talk@www10.w3.org
Resent-From: www-talk@w3.org

At 8:13 PM 11/6/95, Mike Meyer wrote:
>> The least we could do is come up with a proposed standard for the UserAge=
nt
>> field though.
>
>You mean like section 10.16 in draft-ietf-http-v10-spec-04.txt, which
>specifies that the User-Agent header should contain one or more
>products or comments, and section 3.7 of the same document, which
>specifies that a product is a product-token, a slash, and a
>product-version? Token and comment are likewise defined in that
>document.

That sounds about right.

>Of course, until people either 1) stop doing content negotiation based
>on user-agent, or 2) start paying attention to browsers other than
>Moscape, this is immaterial - authors (and users) of browsers that are
>going to lie about the user-agent in order to get the best document
>they can.

We have dozens of browsers in our "browser-negotiation" database.
Including items listing the features that we believe Microsoft's browser
supports.  However until someone proposes a way to tell me via the headers
that this browser supports '<p align=3Dcenter>' and that this browser
supports tables but not percentage widths, and this one supports tables
within tables but not with forms in them; I'm going to have to keep doing
browser-based presentation.  I can live with that.  What really gets me
though is trying to figure out whether I need to send a RealAudio file, a
WAV file, an AU file or an AIFF file.  Why the !@#$% aren't the major
browser manufacturors sending that helper-application information?

Kee Hinckley      Utopia Inc. - Cyberspace Architects=81    617.768.5500
nazgul@utopia.com                               http://www.utopia.com/

I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.



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