[8670] in www-talk@info.cern.ch
Re: 3 Proposals: session ID, business-card auth, customer auth
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel W. Connolly)
Thu Jul 20 15:36:25 1995
To: pitkow@cc.gatech.edu (James Pitkow)
Cc: www-talk@www10.w3.org
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 19 Jul 1995 18:35:36 EDT."
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 12:01:48 -0400
From: "Daniel W. Connolly" <connolly@beach.w3.org>
Resent-From: www-talk@www10.w3.org
In message <199507192235.SAA02218@hapeville.cc.gatech.edu>, James Pitkow writes
:
>
>Dan wrote:
>>
>> Please demonstrate how this is done. No fair spreading Fear,
>> Uncertainty, and Doubt.
>
>Ok. Here's a business card that you require for site access:
Whoa. I was asking how Request-ID can be used to compromise
privacy. No fair muddling it up with business cards.
>Now, if you enable mechanisms that permit log files to contain ids across
>sites AND you do not impose a policy to protect users,
Who said that? Not me. I would certainly expect anybody collecting
business cards to write up their policy for access to that data
and make it available. I would probably even mandate that in
the spec.
>Interestingly, it seems that companies on the Web are asking for more
>information about the effectiveness of their advertising then they can
>get now. When I buy a magazine off a newsstand, no one knows how long
>I looked at the pages, what my name is, etc.
Not unless you return the reader-response cards, or participate in
a survey, or...
I never suggested that _all_ infomation providers would require
a business card on _all_ data. Just that it may be appropriate
at times.
<rant>
Come on folks, this is a big distributed system. The interesting thing
about distributed systems is not just that you can use more than one
box to get the job done. It's that you can accomodate a variety
of policies within the system. Each site decides how much access
to resources it provides to the community, and what it requires
in return.
</rant>
> Instead, companies make
>their decisions based upon reliable estimates of subscription rates and
>the demographics that compose those readers.
And they spend a lot of money doing that, and it costs YOU.
Dan
