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Re: Security: Cookies

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Antoni Matheu)
Mon Mar 20 02:12:34 2000

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From: "Antoni Matheu" <amatheu@ati.es>
To: "Joris Dobbelsteen" <j.p.tdobbelsteen@freeler.nl>
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:07:35 +0100
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> Last I heard about privacy violation by use of cookies:
> - They should provide a web server with personal information about you
> - provide Web Server Administrators (and authorized users) with informa=
tion
> about the web server usage from a specific user or all users.
>=20
> The guy was on the radio and complained cookies where a real violation =
to
> his privacy and turned it off, also he said servers should announce tha=
t
> they are using cookies. RFC 2616 (HTTP/1.1 - June 1999) and another doc=
ument
> discussing HTTP/1.1 did not mension cookies, and they don't see to be
> standard (???) or this is part of HTML (???).
>=20
> I desided that monitoring what users like can be done much easier by lo=
gging
> the links clicked (redirection) and using counters.
> Maybe other HTTP/1.1 parts provide much greater security vulabilities:
> user-agent, server, via, from, etc.....
>=20
> Can I have some more info about this???
>=20

I think that cookies do not send any information not previously=20
stored in it, and this information has been available to the server=20
by other means.

The only value of a cookie is that, as people connect usually via an=20
ISP that doesn't give them the same ip address every time, it is=20
impossible to relate a person to an ip and store information about it=20
using ip as an identifier. So you must send it a cookie and get back=20
it later.

I mean that the privacy violation resides on the use of user-agent,=20
server, via, from, etc; not the use of cookies.

Regards,


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