[10238] in www-talk@info.cern.ch
Re: PUT method (& all it's siblings)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Denner)
Tue Aug 20 03:37:17 1996
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 07:30:24 +0100
From: Matthew Denner <matt@wdi.co.uk>
Reply-To: matt@wdi.co.uk
To: www-talk@w3.org
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I get the www-talk-digest so bear with me for the moment. I apologise
for
the length of this email but I'm doing just one to this list for the
moment.
>
> Subject: PUT method
> From: Jeremey Barrett <jeremey@forequest.com>
>
> Question: Is there something odd about the PUT method that Netscape
> does not allow it to be used as a method on a form?
>
PUT is an extension to HTTP/1.0 included in the HTTP/1.1 protocol. It
should be used to create a new entity on the web-site (i.e. if you edit
a
page with Netscape Navigator Gold and then 'publish' it, it get's PUT
onto
the web-site). There is, in theory, no reason why it shouldn't be used
however, you must remember that this method is used for creating a new
entity altogether and as such the form must be doing something pretty
special.
I think you'll find that the browser is converting the PUT method to
something
else as, as I've mentioned before, this is for creating a totally new
entity.
>
> Subject: Re: PUT method
> From: jna <jna@retina.net>
>
> What exactly is a PUT method? At last check, there was no such method.
>
> Perhaps netscape implements it as an alias to 'POST', but to the best
> of my knowledge there are TWO methods: POST and GET.
>
With relation to HTML forms there is only POST and GET. Check the
HTTP/1.1
protocol and you will find that there is also a PUT. It sounds to me
like Jeremy has read the protocol specification and seen PUT, thought it
would work (like I would) for an HTML form, and tried it with no
success.
>
> PUT sounds like a netscape-ism, and probably should be avoided in the
> name of standards. :)
>
As far as I know the PUT method comes from the HTTP/1.1 protocol (as
I've
been labouring for the last couple of lines ;) and is not related to the
HTML form in any way. Netscape-ism it may be, but it should be used in
the correct context: HTTP daemons only please.
>
> Subject: Re: PUT method
> From: Dmitry Beransky <dberansky@ucsd.edu>
>
> PUT is a method that is defined in HTTP/1.1 [1]. It was not in HTTP/1.0
> [2]. As far as I can tell Netscape doesn't support the 1.1 specs yet,
> although it is definitely aware of them.
>
Netscape definitely doesn't although if you study the header from the
browser
you'll see that it pretends to. In the header it states (loud and proud
:)
'Connection: keep-alive' which is an HTTP/1.1 protocol issue. Does it
do this?
Does it heck :)
Hope this solves some of the problems.
Cheers,
Matt
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