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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:42:47 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew R. Hamilton" <mhamilto@diablo.safb.af.mil> To: thomasre@microsoft.com cc: www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199703092311.SAA02191@ns2.rutgers.edu> Errors-To: owner-www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu On 9 Mar, Thomas Reardon wrote: > >Java is open and platform independent. Java has been tested and > review by many > >security expert and researchers. > > Let be clear: Java is platform-independent to some extent (I mean, you > need similar hardware, 256-color graphics, etc for just about every > 'plaform' JDK 1.1 works on), but IT IS NOT OPEN. It is proprietary Sun > technology. I am not trying to shift the argument, but I want that on You may be right that most of what we know as JAVA is a proprietary Sun product that they have a trademark and such on. However it is as the buzzwords go "an OPEM system" for the plain and simple fact that Sun and others are working to port the Java Virtual Machine to as many Operating Systems as possible. While the VM may be specific to a particular type of hardware and OS, the JAVA byte-code is far from being OS dependent (as long as the VM is supported by the OS). If you are to go on about things not being OPEN, then why not include Microsoft's Internet Explorer. Last time I visited Microsoft's web page to see if they had decided to make IE3.0 availiable for Windows 3.1 (which IMHO took way too long, and now work has finaly made the move to win95) the whole hype about IE3.0 was that it was an"OPEN-CROSS SYSTEMS Web Browser". This made me laugh, because if it was such an OPEM-CROSS SYSTEM as your people there proclaimed it to be then I would have seen versions of the browser for platforms other than Windows95, NT, 3.1, and Macintosh, such as Linux, Solaris, Hp, Dec, Vax, like you do for Netscape. So I am sorry but your argument just falls flat on its face. > the record since we are constantly getting beaten up on what is open vs. > closed. > > -Thomas > > -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Matthew R. Hamilton | "There is no reason in the world to | |mhamilto@diablo.safb.af.mil | fight, however there is every reason| |Systems Analyst (miSOFT Inc.) | in the world to know how to fight." | |Sigma Nu alum Kent State Univ.| Sun Tzu _The_Art_of_War_ | |#include <disclaimer.h> | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
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