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RE: ActiveX Bank-Quicken Exploit

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mirick, James R.)
Fri Feb 14 11:58:12 1997

Date: Fri, 14 Feb 97 09:09 EST
From: "Mirick, James R." <FBS/DEV01/JRMIRICK%First_Bank_System@mcimail.com>
To: Geoffrey Leeming <geoffrey@indiciis.com>,
        WWW Security List <WWW-SECURITY@ns2.rutgers.edu>
Errors-To: owner-www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu

Please reply to the following MCI Mail address: 692-1709


Surveys indicate that a surprisingly large number of our customers don't
even open their statements, much less balance them.  We found this out
because the Marketing department wanted to study the effectiveness of
statement stuffersl.

Jim Mirick
General Manager, FBS Interactive
First Bank System, Minneapolis                www.fbs.com

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From:  Geoffrey Leeming
Sent:  Thursday, February 13, 1997 9:01 PM
To:  WWW Security List
Cc:  James R. Mirick
Subject:  Re: ActiveX Bank-Quicken Exploit

MCI Mail date/time: Thu Feb 13, 1997  8:58 pm  CST
  Source date/time: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:10:41 +0100
 -------------------

Just to take the discussion back a few steps, last week someone mentioned
that the Quicken exploit is not that worrying, because attacks would have
to
go unnoticed for a long period.

Extract from the 1996 UK Security Breaches Survey, by DTI/NCC/ICL/ITSEC:

"In some cases security incidents continued undetected over a period of
time. One incident involved the fraudulent payment of company funds into
an
employee's bank account for over two years and resulted in an "immediate"
cost to the company of =A3650,000. "

If companys who PAY people to manage their finances don't notice
unauthorised payments, what chance of the SoHo user noticing?




Geoffrey Leeming     0171 592 3007 - Office Direct Dial
Consultant           0171 836 0567 - Fax
Indicii Salus Ltd.   0956 844 168  - Mobile





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