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Gripe (delete if you don't want to read)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Johnson)
Wed Jan 29 10:53:41 1997

Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:28:51 +0000
From: mike.johnson@rtp.gtegsc.com (Mike Johnson)
Reply-To: mike.johnson@rtp.gtegsc.com
To: www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu
Errors-To: owner-www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu

For all those who don't feel like reading a
gripe about this list, please hit delete now.

<gripe>

Hello all,

This is my first post to this list.  I've been
on this list for about a week and a half now,
trying to find pointers about security on web
servers (I help run one server at work and I
run one at home).  Well, so far, I've seen
some moron responding to every friggin message
sent to the list with a not so eloquent request
to be removed from the list.  I've also seen
someone else ask the same question three times
(a question that he could have answered on his
own merely be checking the Apache web page).
The rest of the messages fall in to two
categories: several people responding to
the first moron (he deserved far worse than
he got) and a short discussion about available
secure transaction servers.  The last group is
the reason I subscribed to this list (the
people responding to the idiot would never
have happened without the idoit in the first
place -- I blame him for those).

My real gripe is about laziness.  Do people
attempt to solve their problems before sending
mail to the list?  The moron could have 
figgured out the proper way to unsubscribe from
the list on his own.  The guy with the three
identical mail messages could have answered his
question (or at least sent a more informed
message to the list 'I've seen Apache-SSL, are
there any other options?'). I don't understand.
Are these the same people who call tech support
at the drop of a hat?  Is -this- what the Internet
has brought?  Lazyness?  

</gripe>

For those who do your own research and answer
your own questions (and those of others), I
salut you.  The Internet is for people like 
you.  There is -so- much information on the
Internet that is just waiting to be found.  
Reasearch is the whole reason the Internet
was formed.  Nine times out of ten, you can
answer your own question through research.  I
do agree that questions should be asked here,
as well as answers posted, but please keep in
mind the suggestion on the web page: "we suggest 
that the list focus and development of Internet 
standards and related documents for secure services 
within HTTP."  

Mike Johnson
GTE Government Systems

All opinions are my own, not GTE's.

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