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Re: More on Certificates - "transmissibility"

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Murray)
Mon Dec 23 16:04:41 1996

From: "David Murray" <dmurray@pdssoftware.com>
To: www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:50:49 -0500
Reply-To: dmurray@pdssoftware.com
In-reply-to: <32BD509C.2E92@90.deere.com>
Errors-To: owner-www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu

> si10875@ci.uminho.pt wrote:
> > 
> > I have a doubt about client authentication using certificates.
> > Suppose I have a perfectly valid certificate, say passed by Thawte,
> > if I lend this certificate to a friend of mine, can he access a secure server
> > where I had permission to enter, even though he is on another IP address
> > and using another email address?
> > 
> > As you migth have noticed, may doubt is if  secure servers do any
> > run time verification of the information on the certificate.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > JorgeI see your point but from the time you "gave" your certificate to your friend is no 
> different than:
> 1.  Giving your friend "Power Of Attny".
> 2.  Give your buddy your car keys.  And he / she wrecks your car.
> 3.  Letting your buddy use your home for a party.  Who cleans up?
> 4.  Handing my credit cards to my wife and saying "go shop".
> 
> As far as the Sys Admin at the server is concerned its you!  If you give your buddy 
> permission to use your good name I hope you can trust your buddy.
> 
[snip]

PMFJI, but there's a slight difference here that Jorge is also 
glossing over.  My keys and my credit card are in my pocket.  My 
digital ID is on a computer that, well, look at some of the obtuse 
things that MS does, and you'll see my concern.  My point is is that 
I may not be able to physically secure my computer, so I would never 
know that my 'keys' had been lifted.  How is this non-repudiation?

Dave

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