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Re: Alta Vista may or may not harvest unadvertised documents

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steve Neruda)
Fri Nov 15 12:10:29 1996

Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:03:30 -0500
From: Steve Neruda <steve_neruda@nationwide.com>
To: www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu
Errors-To: owner-www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu

David M. Chess wrote:
> 
> > Regardless of whether the Alta Vista harvester is this aggressive,
> > other harvesters (or individual human users) might be, so the prudent
> > thing is never to put files in a world-readable web tree that you can't
> > afford for the world to see.  Other recent RISKS postings include a few
> > horror stories on this theme.
> 

This problem is really one of education.  Security through obscurity
is a bad thing.  Just because you don't globally publish a URL doesn't
mean it's private.  There a dozen of ways, including an employee that
didn't realize it was company confidential, that this URL might leak
out to the general unwashed masses.

- From a design standpoint I prefer to turn off automatic directory
since I like to enforce the view I'm trying to present.  This in no
way should be confused with security.  If you want documents on a
server to be protected limit access by X.509 Cert, password, or even
IP address.  I also prefer to have two document tree's (if at all
possible on two separate servers).  One is for company private
information and the other for public material.  

It's helpful from a social engineering standpoint to make their names
descriptive (ie http://publicinfo.company.com or
http://DemiseOfOurCompanyIfThisLeaksOut.company.com.  Another useful
feature (at lease in the apache server) is to be able to automatically
tag on a header and/or footer to all documents.  This is a good place
to put a company confidential warning that will show up with all pages
even if they're printed.

Remember is a web crawler can find it then your competition can!

SteveN


Steve Neruda                         Steve_Neruda@Nationwide.Com
Senior Internet Consultant           The Internet Technologies Group

    AT&T -- Any company with the Death Star as a logo 
                can't be all bad





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Steve Neruda                         Steve_Neruda@Nationwide.Com
Senior Internet Consultant           The Internet Technologies Group

   "They gave me a book of checks. They didn't ask for any deposits."
    --Congressman Joe Early

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