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Re[2]: How to get OFF this list

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (kevin lipscomb)
Wed Aug 21 11:23:23 1996

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 09:23:12 EST
From: "kevin lipscomb" <kevin_lipscomb@ccmail.nctamslant.navy.mil>
To: www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu, Paul Phillips <psp@well.com>,
        majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com
Errors-To: owner-www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu

[Originally from www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu.  I am now shifting this 
discussion to majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com, and I encourage others following 
this thread to so the same.]


> > Insults from others notwithstanding, some of us have competently followed
> > all correct procedures for unsubscribing from this list, and have even
> > received acknowledgements indicating that we have been unsubscribed.  We
> > continue, however, to receive postings.

> If you are referring to this address --

>    <kevin_lipscomb@ccmail.nctamslant.navy.mil>

> you are not subscribed at rutgers.[...]

Correct.  As stated, I received an acknowledgement from majordomo indicating 
that I had been unsubscribed.  I continued to receive postings anyway.

After contacting Rutgers staff directly, it was evident that the flushing of the
"queue of postings", if you will, lags behind the unsubscription 
acknowledgement.  After about eight days, the queue was flushed to the point 
where I had unsubscribed, and I stopped receiving posts from this list.

There's a design problem here.  Majordomo's unsubscription acknowledgement got 
to me far ahead of the last message posted during my subscription period, but it
didn't warn me that the final batch of postings would follow.

> 2700 subscribers, too many nontechnical.

Perhaps so, but the behavior described above is equally annoying to those of us 
who *are* "technical" -- I am a systems analyst engaged in the development of a 
message processing and routing system for use by the United States Navy.  When 
the captain of a Navy ship says he doesn't want to receive certain kinds of 
messages anymore, and the message processing system system replies, "OK, You 
won't", the captain expects the stream of messages to end right then, not eight 
days later.  We should each be afforded the privilege of being the captains of 
our personal computers.

Majordomo should provide a warning with its unsubscription acknowledgement that 
no NEW postings will be sent, although a final trickle of OLD postings may 
continue to arrive.  Rutgers said they would consider including this warning in 
the www-security "info" file.


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