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Re: Secure WWW Access to Server Groups

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adam Cain)
Thu Apr 18 20:51:33 1996

From: acain@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Adam Cain)
To: trp@zurich.ibm.com (Peter Trommler)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:11:14 -0500 (CDT)
Cc: www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu
In-Reply-To: <9604181544.ZM25332@zurich.ibm.com> from "Peter Trommler" at Apr 18, 96 03:44:00 pm
Errors-To: owner-www-security@ns2.rutgers.edu


A security consideration for this proposal:

Let's say I want to get a user's basic auth password for a particular 
group.  I manage to sucker the user into visiting my web server after 
he has authenticated himself to some other server in that group.  If my 
server returns a 401 claiming to be in the target group, will not the
browser hand over the uuencoded username:password to me?
Of course this attack will fail for Digest Auth or Mediated Digest Auth,
but Basic Auth is still the most common form.

Assuming I haven't misunderstood things.... perhaps this could be
fixed by requiring some relation between the group name and any server
claiming to be in this group.

Also, a couple questions:

Were kerberos-based solutions considered for this purpose?  Just curious.

Is there any support for Mediated Digest Authentication in available
browsers and servers?  I know of none.

	Adam

> We recently submitted an internet draft that proposes an extension to
> HTTP to enable authentication to a group of WWW servers. Using this
> extension the user just has to type his user name and password once to
> be able to access all ressources in a particular group of co-operating
> servers. The draft is available as <draft-trommler-http-ext-groups-00.txt>
> from the "usual" sites.
> 
> A prototypical implementation for AIX based on Mosaic and Httpd from NCSA
> can be obtained via anonymous ftp from ftp.zurich.ibm.com in directory
> /pub/trp/server-groups.
> 
> Regards,
> 	Peter
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