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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] keeping "KLI folklore" words in word lists

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Casey Ransberger)
Wed Dec 17 09:46:08 2014

In-Reply-To: <54916A65.3020400@gmx.de>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 06:45:52 -0800
From: Casey Ransberger <casey.obrien.r@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@kli.org

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I have an idea. Picture a graph where a word has associated symbols marking
it as significant in different ways, like #canon and #st3, or #noun or
#verb (I guess I'm describing what's popularly called "tagging.")

It would then be pretty trivial to expose via e.g. web UI a way for regular
folks like us to be able to search and filter based on any of these
adjectives.

For the CS folks, a further elaboration on this idea might be to find
interesting relationships between words and start to map those out (either
automatically, or let users do it wiki-style.) Then it goes past tagging
and starts to look more like a semantic network.

I got to thinking about this because I found myself really wanting some
kind of rudimentary syntax highlighting for writing Klingon when I kept
saying absolutely the wrong thing with typos. That got me thinking about
where I was going to get the data, which I can't take from the book for
copyright reasons. If users create the graph, then there's at least an
argument that this isn't "stolen data."

Blah blah blah,

--the Fancy New Guy (FNG)

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> btw, what's the canon status of the Klingon in the Haynes manual?
>>
>
> Only the word {petqaD} "medical device to bond broken bones", where Okrand
> only said:
> "Maltz said it was a good word, though sort of technical."
> (Email to Lieven, 13 december 2012)
>
> He wanted to have a look at other words, but probably forgot about that.
>
> --
> Lieven L. Litaer
> aka Quvar valer 'utlh
> http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher
> http://wiki.qepHom.de
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have an idea. Picture a graph where a word has associate=
d symbols marking it as significant in different ways, like #canon and #st3=
, or #noun or #verb (I guess I&#39;m describing what&#39;s popularly called=
 &quot;tagging.&quot;)<div><br></div><div>It would then be pretty trivial t=
o expose via e.g. web UI a way for regular folks like us to be able to sear=
ch and filter based on any of these adjectives.</div><div><br></div><div>Fo=
r the CS folks, a further elaboration on this idea might be to find interes=
ting relationships between words and start to map those out (either automat=
ically, or let users do it wiki-style.) Then it goes past tagging and start=
s to look more like a semantic network.</div><div><br></div><div>I got to t=
hinking about this because I found myself really wanting some kind of rudim=
entary syntax highlighting for writing Klingon when I kept saying absolutel=
y the wrong thing with typos. That got me thinking about where I was going =
to get the data, which I can&#39;t take from the book for copyright reasons=
. If users create the graph, then there&#39;s at least an argument that thi=
s isn&#39;t &quot;stolen data.&quot;</div><div><br></div><div>Blah blah bla=
h,</div><div><br></div><div>--the Fancy New Guy (FNG)</div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:3=
5 AM, Lieven <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:levinius@gmx.de" targe=
t=3D"_blank">levinius@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex"><span class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
btw, what&#39;s the canon status of the Klingon in the Haynes manual?<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
Only the word {petqaD} &quot;medical device to bond broken bones&quot;, whe=
re Okrand only said:<br>
&quot;Maltz said it was a good word, though sort of technical.&quot;<br>
(Email to Lieven, 13 december 2012)<br>
<br>
He wanted to have a look at other words, but probably forgot about that.<sp=
an class=3D""><br>
<br>
-- <br>
Lieven L. Litaer<br>
aka Quvar valer &#39;utlh<br>
</span><a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://www.facebook.com/<u></u>Klingonteacher</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://wiki.qepHom.de" target=3D"_blank">http://wiki.qepHom.de</=
a><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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