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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] keeping "KLI folklore" words in word lists

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lieven)
Mon Dec 15 10:46:44 2014

Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:46:28 +0100
From: Lieven <levinius@gmx.de>
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Am 15.12.2014 um 13:48 schrieb David Trimboli:
> Okay, I would like to add {'ughabugha} "make a point, present an
> argument" to the non-canonical word list. I have said this word.

I agree with SuStel here: The question is that if one includes made up 
words in a list, where will you stop? Now we only have these four 
"KLI-folklore" words, but what if some group of people will begin using 
their own words?

"Extended canon" is one thing, it is written and spread, but an internal 
use of a fake word does not make it worth being listed. And if a newbie 
will search for it, he will find out that the word does simply NOT 
exist. It's not canon.

What if we start to use {'ughabugha} everyday? will it become a slang 
term listed in a dictionary? I'm exaggerating, but the danger is that 
we'd get a dictionary with more made up words than real canon words. 
That's not the purpose of a dictionary.

Someone else wrote:
 > Hence my suggestion of acknowleding that it exists but also
 > declaring it to be wrong.

As SuStel pointed out: there are many non canon words that exist. Shall 
we list them all. I think not. In my opinion, every dictionary available 
(so not only boQwI') should list the words we have so we can learn 
Klingon from it. Do not list words that are fake; We don't see Webster's 
dictionary saying "There are some people who call their annual meeting 
{qep'a'}, so let's list it as a new english word."

My personal opinion only - of course.

-- 
Lieven L. Litaer
aka Quvar valer 'utlh

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