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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Maltz about "The Klingon Art of War"
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Mon Nov 17 16:55:41 2014
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: Brad Wilson <bmacliam@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:53:57 +0000
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I interpret that we dream about "people or things", ie. only a noun can sta=
nd as object of {naj}.
I believe it's generally true that the object of a Klingon sentence is alwa=
ys a noun or a pronoun ('e' being a pronoun), which may or may not be expli=
cit.
(For example, in =AB'oH vIHoHta'.=BB there is an explicit pronoun; in =ABvI=
HoHta'.=BB, it's implied (albeit not unambiguously) by the pronomial prefix=
vI-.)
The only arguable exception that I know of is =ABneH=BB, which allows for p=
hases such as =ABjIQong vIneH.=BB without any explicit pronouns; one can ar=
gue about what the object of =ABvIneH=BB really is.
How about the following:
{tlhIngan Hol jatlhbogh targh vInaj} =3D I dreamed about a targ that speaks=
Klingon.
Looks fine to me!
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<pre style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size: 9pt;"><br>I interpret that we =
dream about "people or things", ie. only a noun can stand as obje=
ct of {naj}.</pre>
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I believe it's generally true that the object of a Klingon sentence is alwa=
ys a noun or a pronoun ('e' being a pronoun), which may or may not be expli=
cit.
<div>(For example, in =AB'oH vIHoHta'.=BB there is an explicit pronoun; in =
=ABvIHoHta'.=BB, it's implied (albeit not unambiguously) by the pronomial p=
refix vI-.)
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<div>The only arguable exception that I know of is =ABneH=BB, which allows =
for phases such as =ABjIQong vIneH.=BB without any explicit pronouns; one c=
an argue about what the object of =ABvIneH=BB really is.<br>
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<pre style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size: 9pt;"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 9pt;">How about the following:</span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size: 9pt;">{tlhIngan Hol jatlhbogh =
targh vInaj} =3D I dreamed about a targ that speaks Klingon.</pre>
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Looks fine to me!</div>
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