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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] mayQoSavte'mo' jIloStaH.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh)
Fri Nov 7 09:45:13 2014
From: lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:44:49 -0500
To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
In-Reply-To: <545C2C9F.3040809@trimboli.name>
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> On Nov 6, 2014, at 9:21 PM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
>=20
> On 11/6/2014 9:02 PM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh wrote:
>> toH, qatlh poH jo=E2=80=99 Hutlh Qorwaghmey? naQbe=E2=80=99 =E2=80=9CSy=
stem Restore=E2=80=9D. lo=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99,
>> pIj ngaDHa=E2=80=99choH pat.
>=20
> pat ngaDHa'choHmoH System Restore not 'e' vIlegh.
jIQIj =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 vInID. tlhIngan Hol vIlo=E2=80=99taHvIS, =
Qatlh.
*Mac OS X* lo=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99taHvIS, *application* jomlu=E2=80=99DI=E2=
=80=99, =E2=80=9Cfolder=E2=80=9D =E2=80=98oH =E2=80=9Cicon=E2=80=9D=E2=80=99=
e=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98ej =E2=80=9Cicon=E2=80=9DvamDaq chaHtaH Hoch =
=E2=80=9Cexecutable files=E2=80=9D. =E2=80=9Capplication=E2=80=9D =
jomHa=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99meH, =E2=80=9Cicon=E2=80=9D woDnISlu=E2=80=99 =
neH. naQtaH =E2=80=9Coperating system=E2=80=9D. ngeD. qay=E2=80=99be=E2=80=
=99.
Qorwaghmey lo=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99taHvIS, *application* jomlu=E2=80=99DI=E2=
=80=99, ghomHa=E2=80=99 *file*mey. *application folder*Daq ghoS =E2=80=98o=
p *file*mey. *system folder*mey SarDaq ghoS =E2=80=98op *file*mey. loQ =
*operating system* choHmoH jomwI=E2=80=99. QatlhmoH.
rut vumHa=E2=80=99 jomwI=E2=80=99. *operating system* qalmoH jomwI=E2=80=99=
. toH *System Restore* lo=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99chugh, chaq *Operating =
System* tI=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98ach *application* ghorlu=E2=80=99=
. chaq qalchoHDI=E2=80=99 *Operating System* qalpu=E2=80=99ghach =
tu=E2=80=99be=E2=80=99 nuv. latlh *application*mey jom. chaq qalbogh poH =
Sovbe=E2=80=99. ngongchugh nuv, Qatlhqu=E2=80=99 *operating system*. =
ghaytan not qalHa=E2=80=99moHlaH.
*operating system* choH *System Restore*. *application*mey choHbe=E2=80=99=
. =E2=80=98ach vumchu=E2=80=99meH De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99, jIjnIS =
*operating system* *application*mey je. wa=E2=80=99 choHmoHlu=E2=80=99chug=
h =E2=80=98ej latlh choHbe=E2=80=99moHchugh, vumHa=E2=80=99 De=E2=80=99wI=E2=
=80=99.
*image backup* lo=E2=80=99laH, =E2=80=98ach potlh *update*mey. =
*update*mey poQ *operating system*. *update*mey poQ *application*mey. =
tugh ngo=E2=80=99choH *image*. *image*mey lu*update*meHlu', Qatlh Qu=E2=80=
=99.
*Mac OS X* lo=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99, not *operating system* =
choHmoH *application* jonwI=E2=80=99. not *application* jomlu=E2=80=99mo=E2=
=80=99 qalchoH *operating system*, =E2=80=98ej qalchoHchugh *operating =
system*, *operating system* jomqa=E2=80=99laH, =E2=80=98ej =
*application*mey *affect*be=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99.
*Mac OS X* lo=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99, poH jo=E2=80=99 =
Dalo=E2=80=99chugh, Hoch rep *image* chu=E2=80=99 qonlu=E2=80=99. =
*restore*nISchugh, *image* chu=E2=80=99 lo=E2=80=99laH. *update*mey =
DaleHNISbe=E2=80=99. Da*restore*DI=E2=80=99, *operating system* Hoch =
*application*mey je Da*restore.
[Forgive my brief burst of English, here, but I don=E2=80=99t think I =
can reliably convey the following in Klingon. I confess my shortcoming =
here.]
And when you have restored your system from an earlier backup in order =
to go back to an earlier OS version or go back to before a malware =
infection, or go back for whatever reason you needed to go back, you can =
then go back into Time Machine and recover newer data files so you =
don=E2=80=99t lose your work. I=E2=80=99ve done this.
I=E2=80=99ve also used it to restore a couple thousand email messages =
from an IMAP email service on the Mail client machine without having to =
talk to the server people to get a backup, which is better than dealing =
with them because I could browse hourly backups in Time Machine and pick =
the backup with the least messages lost, while the server people only =
back up the mail about once every three days, and you can=E2=80=99t =
browse their results until after the restore, and the interface for this =
in Time Machine is simple because you do it in the Mail program, having =
launched Time Machine from within it.
Windows has nothing close to Time Machine. I wish it did. I would =
celebrate the existence of Time Machine=E2=80=99s equivalent in Windows. =
It would simplify my life. People whose expertise is in Windows =
massively misunderstand the capability of Time Machine. They compare =
remarkably limited pseudo-equivalents to it favorably, speaking from =
great ignorance.
Time Machine is the best thing to happen to computers since the =
development of the hard drive. That so many people don=E2=80=99t use it =
is the most glaring example of folly in the history of the use of =
computers. And OS X has had it since OS X 10.5 (Leopard), October of =
2007.
I thought that the journaling of the file system was the reason Windows =
didn=E2=80=99t have it, but that=E2=80=99s clearly wrong. I=E2=80=99m =
not sure why Windows has not developed an equivalent. There must be some =
reason Microsoft has sat back for seven years without copying the =
functionality.
>> *Backup drive* Daghajchugh, rarDI=E2=80=99, <<=E2=80=9Cas a backup =
drive=E2=80=9D Dalo=E2=80=99
>> DaneH=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99?>> jatlh *Apple=E2=80=9D De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99=
.
>=20
> rap Qorwaghmey.
qatlh not muja=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99?
DaH vIQul=E2=80=A6
ghobe=E2=80=99:
=
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/backup-and-r=
estore =
<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/backup-and-=
restore>
"Let Windows choose what to back up, or pick individual folders, =
libraries =
<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/libraries>,=
and drives yourself.=E2=80=9D
reH Hoch=E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 *backup* poH jo=E2=80=99.
>>> wa' malja' De'wI'Daq Qapmo' MacOS.
>>=20
>> qatlh qay=E2=80=99 wanI'vam?
>=20
> jIQIjpu'. Huch.
Where I work, we have =E2=80=9Cstandard packages=E2=80=9D for computers =
from Dell and Apple, with four year warranties, matching RAM, CPU and =
hard drive as closely as possible, and typically, the Macs cost a couple =
tens of dollars less than the Dells. It=E2=80=99s an insignificant =
difference, but it doesn=E2=80=99t support the myth that Macs cost more =
for comparable computers. This has been true for the past five years.
>>>> qalchoHchugh Qorwaghmey, De=E2=80=99 vI*backup*nIS, ghIq Qorwaghmey
>>>> vIjomnISqa=E2=80=99, ghIq *drivers* vIjomnISqa=E2=80=99, ghIq =
*applications*
>>>> vIjomnISqa=E2=80=99, ghIq De=E2=80=99 vI*restore*nIS.
>>>=20
>>> qatlh deployment image DachenmoHbe'pu'?
>>>=20
>>> Microsoft Deployment Toolkit yIlo'. Hoch De'wI'lIjvaD wa' image
>>> yIchenmoH. Hoch drivers applications je ngaS. image yIchu', ngugh
>>> yIQot'eghmoH.
>>>=20
>>> 'ej not not not De'wI'Daq De' yIpol!!! Folder Redirection yIlo=E2=80=99=
.
>>=20
>> toy=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99mey DIHutlh. Qatlh lo'meH pat DaDelbogh. =
juHwIjDaq lo=E2=80=99bej nuvpu=E2=80=99
>> puS. maq <<ngeD! HoSghaj! lo=E2=80=99nIS Hoch!>> =E2=80=98ach =
*detail*meyDaq ghaHtaH
>> veqlargh.
>>=20
>> poH jo=E2=80=99 lo=E2=80=99laH vay=E2=80=99. ngeD. toy=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=
=99 poQbe=E2=80=99. *image*mey DaleHnISbe=E2=80=99.
>=20
> De'wI' chu' jomlu'meH poH jo' lo'laHbe' vay=E2=80=99.
qay=E2=80=99be=E2=80=99. ngaj *Mac* vIghuSmoHmeH poH. pIm Hoch =
lo=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99. loQ pImnIS Hoch De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99. =
vIghuSmoHtaHvIS, De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 vIpImmoH.
>>>> Quite likely, you paid as much for your PC as I did for my Mac, but
>>>> they=E2=80=99ve convinced you that Macs are always more expensive.
>>>=20
>>> muponpu' 'Iv'e'? Qulpa'wIjvaD Hoch De'wI'mey vIje' 'ej jo' rapvaD
>>> ghaytan Apple wagh law' Hoch wagh puS.
>>>=20
>>> *reH* Apple wagh law' Hoch wagh puS 'e' vImaqbe'pu'. SaHbej =
Qorwaghmey
>>> De'wI' wagh. 'ach Applevo' Daje'chugh bIwIvlaHbe': reH wagh.
>>> Qulpa'wIjDaq De'wI' wagh poQ 'op nuvpu': De' lupoj qoj De' luSuq tej
>>> jo' 'Itlh lulo'taHvIS. (motlh QorwaghmeyDaq neH Qap jo'vam.) 'ach
>>> De'wI' wagh poQbe' 'op nuvpu': weQmoQnaQ, QInmey, Microsoft mu' je =
neH
>>> lulo'. De'wI'mey wagh poQbe' nuvvam. 'ach De'wI'mey wagh neH je' =
Apple!
>>=20
>> <<!>> DaparHa=E2=80=99law=E2=80=99.
>>=20
>> waghbe=E2=80=99 iPad.
>=20
> iPadDaq tej Sagh ta'laHbe' vay'. ta' 'opvaD QaQ iPad; latlhvaD =
QaQbe=E2=80=99.
bIqarchu=E2=80=99.
> --=20
> SuStel
> http://www.trimboli.name/
>=20
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class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
Nov 6, 2014, at 9:21 PM, SuStel <<a =
href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" =
class=3D"">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">On 11/6/2014 9:02 =
PM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
class=3D"">toH, qatlh poH jo=E2=80=99 Hutlh Qorwaghmey? naQbe=E2=80=99 =
=E2=80=9CSystem Restore=E2=80=9D. lo=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99,<br =
class=3D"">pIj ngaDHa=E2=80=99choH pat.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D"">pat ngaDHa'choHmoH System Restore not 'e' vIlegh.<br =
class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>jIQIj =
=E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 vInID. tlhIngan Hol vIlo=E2=80=99taHvIS, =
Qatlh.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>*Mac OS X* lo=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99=
taHvIS, *application* jomlu=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99, =E2=80=9Cfolder=E2=80=9D =
=E2=80=98oH =E2=80=9Cicon=E2=80=9D=E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98ej =
=E2=80=9Cicon=E2=80=9DvamDaq chaHtaH Hoch =E2=80=9Cexecutable files=E2=80=9D=
. =E2=80=9Capplication=E2=80=9D jomHa=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99meH, =E2=80=9Cico=
n=E2=80=9D woDnISlu=E2=80=99 neH. naQtaH =E2=80=9Coperating system=E2=80=9D=
. ngeD. qay=E2=80=99be=E2=80=99.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Qorwaghmey lo=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99taHvIS, =
*application* jomlu=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99, ghomHa=E2=80=99 *file*mey. =
*application folder*Daq ghoS =E2=80=98op *file*mey. *system folder*mey =
SarDaq ghoS =E2=80=98op *file*mey. loQ *operating system* choHmoH =
jomwI=E2=80=99. QatlhmoH.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>rut =
vumHa=E2=80=99 jomwI=E2=80=99. *operating system* qalmoH jomwI=E2=80=99. =
toH *System Restore* lo=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99chugh, chaq *Operating =
System* tI=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98ach *application* ghorlu=E2=80=99=
. chaq qalchoHDI=E2=80=99 *Operating System* qalpu=E2=80=99ghach =
tu=E2=80=99be=E2=80=99 nuv. latlh *application*mey jom. chaq qalbogh poH =
Sovbe=E2=80=99. ngongchugh nuv, Qatlhqu=E2=80=99 *operating system*. =
ghaytan not qalHa=E2=80=99moHlaH.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>*operating system* choH *System Restore*. =
*application*mey choHbe=E2=80=99. =E2=80=98ach vumchu=E2=80=99meH =
De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99, jIjnIS *operating system* *application*mey je. =
wa=E2=80=99 choHmoHlu=E2=80=99chugh =E2=80=98ej latlh choHbe=E2=80=99moHch=
ugh, vumHa=E2=80=99 De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>*image backup* lo=E2=80=99laH, =E2=80=98ach potlh =
*update*mey. *update*mey poQ *operating system*. *update*mey poQ =
*application*mey. tugh ngo=E2=80=99choH *image*. *image*mey =
lu*update*meHlu', Qatlh Qu=E2=80=99.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>*Mac OS X* lo=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99, not =
*operating system* choHmoH *application* jonwI=E2=80=99. not =
*application* jomlu=E2=80=99mo=E2=80=99 qalchoH *operating system*, =
=E2=80=98ej qalchoHchugh *operating system*, *operating system* =
jomqa=E2=80=99laH, =E2=80=98ej *application*mey =
*affect*be=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>*Mac =
OS X* lo=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99, poH jo=E2=80=99 Dalo=E2=80=99chug=
h, Hoch rep *image* chu=E2=80=99 qonlu=E2=80=99. *restore*nISchugh, =
*image* chu=E2=80=99 lo=E2=80=99laH. *update*mey DaleHNISbe=E2=80=99. =
Da*restore*DI=E2=80=99, *operating system* Hoch *application*mey je =
Da*restore.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>[Forgive my brief burst =
of English, here, but I don=E2=80=99t think I can reliably convey the =
following in Klingon. I confess my shortcoming here.]</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>And when you have restored your system from an =
earlier backup in order to go back to an earlier OS version or go back =
to before a malware infection, or go back for whatever reason you needed =
to go back, you can then go back into Time Machine and recover newer =
data files so you don=E2=80=99t lose your work. I=E2=80=99ve done =
this.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>I=E2=80=99ve also used it to =
restore a couple thousand email messages from an IMAP email service on =
the Mail client machine without having to talk to the server people to =
get a backup, which is better than dealing with them because I could =
browse hourly backups in Time Machine and pick the backup with the least =
messages lost, while the server people only back up the mail about once =
every three days, and you can=E2=80=99t browse their results until after =
the restore, and the interface for this in Time Machine is simple =
because you do it in the Mail program, having launched Time Machine from =
within it.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Windows has nothing close =
to Time Machine. I wish it did. I would celebrate the existence of Time =
Machine=E2=80=99s equivalent in Windows. It would simplify my life. =
People whose expertise is in Windows massively misunderstand the =
capability of Time Machine. They compare remarkably limited =
pseudo-equivalents to it favorably, speaking from great =
ignorance.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Time Machine is the best =
thing to happen to computers since the development of the hard drive. =
That so many people don=E2=80=99t use it is the most glaring example of =
folly in the history of the use of computers. And OS X has had it since =
OS X 10.5 (Leopard), October of 2007.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>I thought that the journaling of the file system =
was the reason Windows didn=E2=80=99t have it, but that=E2=80=99s =
clearly wrong. I=E2=80=99m not sure why Windows has not developed an =
equivalent. There must be some reason Microsoft has sat back for seven =
years without copying the functionality.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">*Backup drive* Daghajchugh, rarDI=E2=80=99, <<=E2=80=9Cas=
a backup drive=E2=80=9D Dalo=E2=80=99<br class=3D"">DaneH=E2=80=99a=E2=80=
=99?>> jatlh *Apple=E2=80=9D De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">rap Qorwaghmey.<br =
class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>qatlh not =
muja=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99?</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>DaH =
vIQul=E2=80=A6</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>ghobe=E2=80=99:</div><d=
iv><br class=3D""></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/back=
up-and-restore" =
class=3D"">http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/b=
ackup-and-restore</a></div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>"<span =
style=3D"color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: WOL_Reg, 'Segoe UI', =
Tahoma, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;" =
class=3D"">Let Windows choose what to back up, or pick individual =
folders, </span><a =
href=3D"http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/libr=
aries" class=3D"navigationLink" data-id=3D"pageContainer3_ID0ECC" =
style=3D"text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: =
WOL_SB, 'Segoe UI Semibold', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-weight: 600; color: rgb(92, 45, 145); font-size: 13px; line-height: =
20px;">libraries</a><span style=3D"color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: =
WOL_Reg, 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; =
line-height: 20px;" class=3D"">, and drives yourself.</span><font =
color=3D"#505050" face=3D"WOL_Reg, Segoe UI, Tahoma, Helvetica, =
sans-serif" size=3D"2" class=3D""><span style=3D"line-height: 20px;" =
class=3D"">=E2=80=9D</span></font></div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>reH=
Hoch=E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 *backup* poH jo=E2=80=99.</div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">wa' malja' De'wI'Daq Qapmo' MacOS.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">qatlh qay=E2=80=99 wanI'vam?<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">jIQIjpu'. Huch.<br =
class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Where I =
work, we have =E2=80=9Cstandard packages=E2=80=9D for computers from =
Dell and Apple, with four year warranties, matching RAM, CPU and hard =
drive as closely as possible, and typically, the Macs cost a couple tens =
of dollars less than the Dells. It=E2=80=99s an insignificant =
difference, but it doesn=E2=80=99t support the myth that Macs cost more =
for comparable computers. This has been true for the past five =
years.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">qalchoHchugh Qorwaghmey, =
De=E2=80=99 vI*backup*nIS, ghIq Qorwaghmey<br class=3D"">vIjomnISqa=E2=80=99=
, ghIq *drivers* vIjomnISqa=E2=80=99, ghIq *applications*<br =
class=3D"">vIjomnISqa=E2=80=99, ghIq De=E2=80=99 vI*restore*nIS.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">qatlh deployment image =
DachenmoHbe'pu'?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Microsoft Deployment =
Toolkit yIlo'. Hoch De'wI'lIjvaD wa' image<br class=3D"">yIchenmoH. Hoch =
drivers applications je ngaS. image yIchu', ngugh<br =
class=3D"">yIQot'eghmoH.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">'ej not not not =
De'wI'Daq De' yIpol!!! Folder Redirection yIlo=E2=80=99.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">toy=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99mey =
DIHutlh. Qatlh lo'meH pat DaDelbogh. juHwIjDaq lo=E2=80=99bej =
nuvpu=E2=80=99<br class=3D"">puS. maq <<ngeD! HoSghaj! lo=E2=80=99nI=
S Hoch!>> =E2=80=98ach *detail*meyDaq ghaHtaH<br =
class=3D"">veqlargh.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">poH jo=E2=80=99 =
lo=E2=80=99laH vay=E2=80=99. ngeD. toy=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 poQbe=E2=80=99.=
*image*mey DaleHnISbe=E2=80=99.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D"">De'wI' chu' jomlu'meH poH jo' lo'laHbe' vay=E2=80=99.<br =
class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>qay=E2=80=99b=
e=E2=80=99. ngaj *Mac* vIghuSmoHmeH poH. pIm Hoch lo=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99. =
loQ pImnIS Hoch De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99. vIghuSmoHtaHvIS, De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=
=99 vIpImmoH.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">Quite likely, you paid as much for your PC as I did for my =
Mac, but<br class=3D"">they=E2=80=99ve convinced you that Macs are =
always more expensive.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">muponpu' =
'Iv'e'? Qulpa'wIjvaD Hoch De'wI'mey vIje' 'ej jo' rapvaD<br =
class=3D"">ghaytan Apple wagh law' Hoch wagh puS.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">*reH* Apple wagh law' Hoch wagh puS 'e' vImaqbe'pu'. SaHbej =
Qorwaghmey<br class=3D"">De'wI' wagh. 'ach Applevo' Daje'chugh =
bIwIvlaHbe': reH wagh.<br class=3D"">Qulpa'wIjDaq De'wI' wagh poQ 'op =
nuvpu': De' lupoj qoj De' luSuq tej<br class=3D"">jo' 'Itlh lulo'taHvIS. =
(motlh QorwaghmeyDaq neH Qap jo'vam.) 'ach<br class=3D"">De'wI' wagh =
poQbe' 'op nuvpu': weQmoQnaQ, QInmey, Microsoft mu' je neH<br =
class=3D"">lulo'. De'wI'mey wagh poQbe' nuvvam. 'ach De'wI'mey wagh neH =
je' Apple!<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D""><<!>> =
DaparHa=E2=80=99law=E2=80=99.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">waghbe=E2=80=99=
iPad.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">iPadDaq tej Sagh =
ta'laHbe' vay'. ta' 'opvaD QaQ iPad; latlhvaD QaQbe=E2=80=99.<br =
class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>bIqarchu=E2=80=99.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">-- <br class=3D"">SuStel<br =
class=3D""><a href=3D"http://www.trimboli.name/" =
class=3D"">http://www.trimboli.name/</a><br class=3D""><br =
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