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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] mayQoSavte'mo' jIloStaH.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh)
Thu Nov 6 21:03:08 2014
From: lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <545B94F3.9090602@trimboli.name>
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 21:02:45 -0500
To: SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name>
Cc: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@kli.org
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choghojmoHta=E2=80=99.=20
QonoS ghaj NTFS =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 vISovbe=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99. =
[Intentionally breaking a stupid grammar rule.]
toH, qatlh poH jo=E2=80=99 Hutlh Qorwaghmey? naQbe=E2=80=99 =E2=80=9CSyste=
m Restore=E2=80=9D. lo=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99, pIj ngaDHa=E2=80=99=
choH pat.
*link*mey net ghaj=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99?
[More below, in line]
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 10:34 AM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
>=20
> On 11/6/2014 9:38 AM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh wrote:
>> QonoS ghaj Apple's file system. QonoSvammo=E2=80=99 DuH <<poH jo=E2=80=99=
>> (Time
>> Machine).
>>=20
>> De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 wo=E2=80=99Daq poH jo=E2=80=99 nIv law=E2=80=99 =
Hoch nIv puS. poH jo=E2=80=99 yajHa=E2=80=99 HochHom
>> Qorwaghmey lo=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99 QonoS Hutlhmo=E2=80=99 =
Qorwaghmey.
>=20
> qarbe'. QonoS filesystem 'oH NTFS'e'. NTFS lo' HochHom Qorwaghmey =
De'wI'mey. FAT, FAT32 joq yIlo'Qo'!
>=20
>> qay=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99 De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99, poH jo=E2=80=99 =
lo=E2=80=99laH De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 tI=E2=80=99wI'. qay=E2=80=99pa=E2=80=
=99bogh De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99vam
>> rurqa=E2=80=99laH qay=E2=80=99bogh De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99.
>=20
> QorwaghmeyDaq mIwvam Data'laH je. "System Restore" yIlo'.
>=20
> file luchIllu'pu'chugh, "Previous Versions" yIlo'. Dalo'meH Qorwaghmey =
Backup (Qorwaghmey Soch), "File qun" (Qorwaghmey chorgh) ghap yIlo=E2=80=99=
.
*Backup drive* Daghajchugh, rarDI=E2=80=99, <<=E2=80=9Cas a backup =
drive=E2=80=9D Dalo=E2=80=99 DaneH=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99?>> jatlh *Apple=E2=80=
=9D De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99.=20
<<HIja=E2=80=99>> Dajatlhchugh, vum=E2=80=99eghmoH poH jo=E2=80=99. Hoch =
*file*mey qon. qaSDI=E2=80=99 Hoch rep, choHpu=E2=80=99bogh *file*mey =
qon. wa=E2=80=99 *file* Hoch *file* joq *restore*laH. ngeD. *file* =
DawIvlaH pagh poH DawIvlaH. law=E2=80=99bogh poHmey ngo=E2=80=99 =
*browse*laH. polmeH *efficient*chu=E2=80=99 patvam.
>> qalchoHchugh Mac OS X (qub wanI=E2=80=99vam, =E2=80=98ach qaSlaH), =
vIjomqa=E2=80=99laH.
>> qay=E2=80=99be=E2=80=99. wa=E2=80=99 mIw poQ.
>=20
> wa' malja' De'wI'Daq Qapmo' MacOS.
qatlh qay=E2=80=99 wanI'vam?
>> qalchoHchugh Qorwaghmey, De=E2=80=99 vI*backup*nIS, ghIq Qorwaghmey
>> vIjomnISqa=E2=80=99, ghIq *drivers* vIjomnISqa=E2=80=99, ghIq =
*applications*
>> vIjomnISqa=E2=80=99, ghIq De=E2=80=99 vI*restore*nIS.
>=20
> qatlh deployment image DachenmoHbe'pu'?
>=20
> Microsoft Deployment Toolkit yIlo'. Hoch De'wI'lIjvaD wa' image =
yIchenmoH. Hoch drivers applications je ngaS. image yIchu', ngugh =
yIQot'eghmoH.
>=20
> 'ej not not not De'wI'Daq De' yIpol!!! Folder Redirection yIlo=E2=80=99.=
toy=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99mey DIHutlh. Qatlh lo'meH pat DaDelbogh. =
juHwIjDaq lo=E2=80=99bej nuvpu=E2=80=99 puS. maq <<ngeD! HoSghaj! =
lo=E2=80=99nIS Hoch!>> =E2=80=98ach *detail*meyDaq ghaHtaH veqlargh.
poH jo=E2=80=99 lo=E2=80=99laH vay=E2=80=99. ngeD. toy=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99=
poQbe=E2=80=99. *image*mey DaleHnISbe=E2=80=99.
>> Quite likely, you paid as much for your PC as I did for my Mac, but
>> they=E2=80=99ve convinced you that Macs are always more expensive.
>=20
> muponpu' 'Iv'e'? Qulpa'wIjvaD Hoch De'wI'mey vIje' 'ej jo' rapvaD =
ghaytan Apple wagh law' Hoch wagh puS.
>=20
> *reH* Apple wagh law' Hoch wagh puS 'e' vImaqbe'pu'. SaHbej Qorwaghmey =
De'wI' wagh. 'ach Applevo' Daje'chugh bIwIvlaHbe': reH wagh. =
Qulpa'wIjDaq De'wI' wagh poQ 'op nuvpu': De' lupoj qoj De' luSuq tej jo' =
'Itlh lulo'taHvIS. (motlh QorwaghmeyDaq neH Qap jo'vam.) 'ach De'wI' =
wagh poQbe' 'op nuvpu': weQmoQnaQ, QInmey, Microsoft mu' je neH lulo'. =
De'wI'mey wagh poQbe' nuvvam. 'ach De'wI'mey wagh neH je' Apple!
<<!>> DaparHa=E2=80=99law=E2=80=99.
waghbe=E2=80=99 iPad.
> pImbej Mac Qorwaghmey leHmeH Dup, 'ach puSbe' Qorwaghmey. leHmeH =
mIwmey pIm DaghojnIS neH. Qorwaghmey SovwIj HoS law' Mac SovwIj HoS puS, =
vaj Mac vItI'nIS jImoghchoH. jIHvaD nap Qorwaghmey tI'meH Dup 'ej =
mumoghmoH Mac tI'meH Dup.
cha=E2=80=99maH Soch ben *Microsoft DOS 3.1* vIlo=E2=80=99. Qorwaghmey =
3.x, 95, 98, ME, NT, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 vIlo=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99 =
=E2=80=98ej lo=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99 vIboQta=E2=80=99.
Hut ben *Mac OS X* vIlo=E2=80=99choH je. Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger.
jItaghDI=E2=80=99, Huj =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 vIHar. loQ vIpar.
loQ DajchoH Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard.
Dajbej Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. loQ Dojlaw=E2=80=99.
Dojbej Mac OS X 10.7 Lion.
ghu=E2=80=99 Dub Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion.
DubtaH Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks.
DubtaH Mac OS X 10.10 Yosemite.
lo=E2=80=99laHbej Qorwaghmey 3.1.
valqu=E2=80=99 Qorwaghmey 95.
ghu=E2=80=99 Dub Qorwaghmey 98.
ME?=E2=80=A6 Dubbe=E2=80=99.
Qatlh NT.
ghu=E2=80=99 Dub 2000.
Dun XP, =E2=80=98ach ngo=E2=80=99choHtaHvIS DubnISlu=E2=80=99. =
ngaQlaHbe=E2=80=99. qaStaHvIS poH =E2=80=98Iq Dubbe=E2=80=99lu'.
Vista?
Vista 1.1 =E2=80=98oH Qorwaghmey Soch. Dubbej, =E2=80=98ach =
Dubqu=E2=80=99be=E2=80=99.
Qorwaghmey chorgh?
loQ He chIllaw=E2=80=99 Microsoft.
Qorwaghmey chorgh vI=E2=80=99 wa=E2=80=99? Dubbej. yap=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99?=
jISovbe=E2=80=99. tlhoy tInmo=E2=80=99 lujlaHbe=E2=80=99law=E2=80=99 =
*Microsoft*.
Qorwaghmey Hut? nuqDaq =E2=80=98oHtaH Qorwaghmey Hut? qatlh veb =
Qorwaghmey wa=E2=80=99maH? toghlaH=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99 *Microsoft*?
chaq Dun chorwaghmey wa=E2=80=99maH. Qap *Microsoft* =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 =
vImaS. Qapchugh ngeDchoH Qu=E2=80=99wIj. DaH Qu=E2=80=99wIj ngeDmoH =
=E2=80=9CApple", =E2=80=98ej Qu=E2=80=99wIj QatlhmoH *Microsoft*.
> --=20
> SuStel
> http://www.trimboli.name/
>=20
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lojmIt tI=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 nuv =E2=80=98utlh
Door Repair Guy, Retired Honorably
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">choghojmoHta=E2=80=99. </div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">QonoS ghaj NTFS =E2=80=98e=
=E2=80=99 vISovbe=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99. [Intentionally breaking a stupid =
grammar rule.]</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">toH, qatlh poH jo=E2=80=99 Hutlh Qorwaghmey? naQbe=E2=80=99 =
=E2=80=9CSystem Restore=E2=80=9D. lo=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99, pIj =
ngaDHa=E2=80=99choH pat.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">*link*mey net ghaj=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99?</div><br class=3D""><div=
apple-content-edited=3D"true" class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><div class=3D"">[More below, in =
line]</div></div></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Nov 6, 2014, at 10:34 AM, SuStel <<a =
href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" =
class=3D"">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">On 11/6/2014 9:38 =
AM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
class=3D"">QonoS ghaj Apple's file system. QonoSvammo=E2=80=99 DuH =
<<poH jo=E2=80=99>> (Time<br class=3D"">Machine).<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 wo=E2=80=99Daq poH =
jo=E2=80=99 nIv law=E2=80=99 Hoch nIv puS. poH jo=E2=80=99 yajHa=E2=80=99 =
HochHom<br class=3D"">Qorwaghmey lo=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99 QonoS =
Hutlhmo=E2=80=99 Qorwaghmey.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D"">qarbe'. QonoS filesystem 'oH NTFS'e'. NTFS lo' HochHom =
Qorwaghmey De'wI'mey. FAT, FAT32 joq yIlo'Qo'!<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">qay=E2=80=99DI=E2=80=99 =
De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99, poH jo=E2=80=99 lo=E2=80=99laH De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=
=99 tI=E2=80=99wI'. qay=E2=80=99pa=E2=80=99bogh De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99vam<=
br class=3D"">rurqa=E2=80=99laH qay=E2=80=99bogh De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99.<b=
r class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">QorwaghmeyDaq mIwvam Data'laH =
je. "System Restore" yIlo'.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">file =
luchIllu'pu'chugh, "Previous Versions" yIlo'. Dalo'meH Qorwaghmey Backup =
(Qorwaghmey Soch), "File qun" (Qorwaghmey chorgh) ghap yIlo=E2=80=99.<br =
class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>*Backup =
drive* Daghajchugh, rarDI=E2=80=99, <<=E2=80=9Cas a backup =
drive=E2=80=9D Dalo=E2=80=99 DaneH=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99?>> jatlh =
*Apple=E2=80=9D De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99. </div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div><<HIja=E2=80=99>> Dajatlhchugh, =
vum=E2=80=99eghmoH poH jo=E2=80=99. Hoch *file*mey qon. qaSDI=E2=80=99 =
Hoch rep, choHpu=E2=80=99bogh *file*mey qon. wa=E2=80=99 *file* Hoch =
*file* joq *restore*laH. ngeD. *file* DawIvlaH pagh poH DawIvlaH. =
law=E2=80=99bogh poHmey ngo=E2=80=99 *browse*laH. polmeH =
*efficient*chu=E2=80=99 patvam.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">qalchoHchugh Mac OS X (qub wanI=E2=80=99vam, =E2=80=98ach =
qaSlaH), vIjomqa=E2=80=99laH.<br class=3D"">qay=E2=80=99be=E2=80=99. =
wa=E2=80=99 mIw poQ.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">wa' =
malja' De'wI'Daq Qapmo' MacOS.<br class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>qatlh qay=E2=80=99 wanI'vam?</div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">qalchoHchugh Qorwaghmey, =
De=E2=80=99 vI*backup*nIS, ghIq Qorwaghmey<br class=3D"">vIjomnISqa=E2=80=99=
, ghIq *drivers* vIjomnISqa=E2=80=99, ghIq *applications*<br =
class=3D"">vIjomnISqa=E2=80=99, ghIq De=E2=80=99 vI*restore*nIS.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">qatlh deployment image =
DachenmoHbe'pu'?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Microsoft Deployment =
Toolkit yIlo'. Hoch De'wI'lIjvaD wa' image yIchenmoH. Hoch drivers =
applications je ngaS. image yIchu', ngugh yIQot'eghmoH.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">'ej not not not De'wI'Daq De' yIpol!!! Folder Redirection =
yIlo=E2=80=99.<br class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>toy=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99mey DIHutlh. Qatlh lo'meH =
pat DaDelbogh. juHwIjDaq lo=E2=80=99bej nuvpu=E2=80=99 puS. maq =
<<ngeD! HoSghaj! lo=E2=80=99nIS Hoch!>> =E2=80=98ach =
*detail*meyDaq ghaHtaH veqlargh.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>poH =
jo=E2=80=99 lo=E2=80=99laH vay=E2=80=99. ngeD. toy=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 =
poQbe=E2=80=99. *image*mey DaleHnISbe=E2=80=99.</div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Quite likely, you paid =
as much for your PC as I did for my Mac, but<br class=3D"">they=E2=80=99ve=
convinced you that Macs are always more expensive.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">muponpu' 'Iv'e'? Qulpa'wIjvaD =
Hoch De'wI'mey vIje' 'ej jo' rapvaD ghaytan Apple wagh law' Hoch wagh =
puS.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">*reH* Apple wagh law' Hoch wagh puS =
'e' vImaqbe'pu'. SaHbej Qorwaghmey De'wI' wagh. 'ach Applevo' Daje'chugh =
bIwIvlaHbe': reH wagh. Qulpa'wIjDaq De'wI' wagh poQ 'op nuvpu': De' =
lupoj qoj De' luSuq tej jo' 'Itlh lulo'taHvIS. (motlh QorwaghmeyDaq neH =
Qap jo'vam.) 'ach De'wI' wagh poQbe' 'op nuvpu': weQmoQnaQ, QInmey, =
Microsoft mu' je neH lulo'. De'wI'mey wagh poQbe' nuvvam. 'ach De'wI'mey =
wagh neH je' Apple!<br class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div><<!>> DaparHa=E2=80=99law=E2=80=99.</div=
><div><br class=3D""></div><div>waghbe=E2=80=99 iPad.</div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">pImbej =
Mac Qorwaghmey leHmeH Dup, 'ach puSbe' Qorwaghmey. leHmeH mIwmey pIm =
DaghojnIS neH. Qorwaghmey SovwIj HoS law' Mac SovwIj HoS puS, vaj Mac =
vItI'nIS jImoghchoH. jIHvaD nap Qorwaghmey tI'meH Dup 'ej mumoghmoH Mac =
tI'meH Dup.<br class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>cha=E2=80=99maH Soch ben *Microsoft DOS 3.1* =
vIlo=E2=80=99. Qorwaghmey 3.x, 95, 98, ME, NT, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, =
8.1 vIlo=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98ej lo=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99=
vIboQta=E2=80=99.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Hut ben *Mac OS =
X* vIlo=E2=80=99choH je. Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>jItaghDI=E2=80=99, Huj =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 vIHar. =
loQ vIpar.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>loQ DajchoH Mac OS X 10.5 =
Leopard.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Dajbej Mac OS X 10.6 Snow =
Leopard. loQ Dojlaw=E2=80=99.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Dojbej =
Mac OS X 10.7 Lion.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>ghu=E2=80=99 Dub =
Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>DubtaH =
Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>DubtaH Mac =
OS X 10.10 Yosemite.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>lo=E2=80=99laHbej=
Qorwaghmey 3.1.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>valqu=E2=80=99 =
Qorwaghmey 95.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>ghu=E2=80=99 Dub =
Qorwaghmey 98.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>ME?=E2=80=A6 =
Dubbe=E2=80=99.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Qatlh =
NT.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>ghu=E2=80=99 Dub =
2000.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Dun XP, =E2=80=98ach =
ngo=E2=80=99choHtaHvIS DubnISlu=E2=80=99. ngaQlaHbe=E2=80=99. qaStaHvIS =
poH =E2=80=98Iq Dubbe=E2=80=99lu'.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Vista?</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Vista =
1.1 =E2=80=98oH Qorwaghmey Soch. Dubbej, =E2=80=98ach =
Dubqu=E2=80=99be=E2=80=99.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Qorwaghmey =
chorgh?</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>loQ He chIllaw=E2=80=99 =
Microsoft.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Qorwaghmey chorgh vI=E2=80=99=
wa=E2=80=99? Dubbej. yap=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99? jISovbe=E2=80=99. tlhoy =
tInmo=E2=80=99 lujlaHbe=E2=80=99law=E2=80=99 *Microsoft*.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Qorwaghmey Hut? nuqDaq =E2=80=98oHtaH Qorwaghmey =
Hut? qatlh veb Qorwaghmey wa=E2=80=99maH? toghlaH=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99 =
*Microsoft*?</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>chaq Dun chorwaghmey =
wa=E2=80=99maH. Qap *Microsoft* =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 vImaS. Qapchugh =
ngeDchoH Qu=E2=80=99wIj. DaH Qu=E2=80=99wIj ngeDmoH =E2=80=9CApple", =
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