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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Sweets
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Wed Sep 3 11:05:16 2014
From: "Robyn Stewart" <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
To: "'Fiat Knox'" <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>,
"'Klingon List'" <Tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
In-Reply-To: <1409741095.52040.YahooMailNeo@web133102.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 08:05:04 -0700
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I would not guess that puq Soj was sweets. There=E2=80=99s nothing =
intrinsically childlike about them. A lot of kids aren=E2=80=99t even =
allowed to eat them. Sugar itself doesn=E2=80=99t seem to be a Klingon =
item, given the loanword, so how about Su=E2=80=99ghar SojHommey. With =
that skit to translate, I would have simply had the children buying =
yuch. Unless there is a particular sponsor to mollify, why not? Branch =
out and have them buying vetlh mIQ and other tasty Klingon-style treats. =
Different cultures have different foods should be a lesson not alien to =
children=E2=80=99s TV.=20
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Good on you with the show. Don=E2=80=99t forget to translate, =
=E2=80=9CPlease may I have ...=E2=80=9D with =E2=80=9CHInob=E2=80=9D.
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- Qov
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From: Fiat Knox [mailto:fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk]=20
Sent: September 3, 2014 3:45
To: Klingon List
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Sweets
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I've been invited to participate in a BBC TV show teaching children to =
speak Klingon. Only a crash course, but the producer had the idea that =
the kids could run a scenario where they go out and buy sweets in =
Klingon.
So I'm running the following ideas past you for terms they could be =
using during the show.
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puq Soj - sweets
We already have leng Soj from KGT, but "puq Soj" seems more appropriate =
for this show.
naHlet yuch - chocolate (covered) nuts
naHHom yuch - chocolate (covered) raisins
qagh ngeb - sugar worms (literally "false qagh") (probably they'd use =
dyed liquorice shoelaces)
They're kids, and it is a British kids' show so nobody's expecting them =
to come out of it spouting Klingon poetry; but I just wanted to pass =
these by you so you could comment and offer advice.
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D'>I would not guess that puq Soj was sweets. There=E2=80=99s nothing =
intrinsically childlike about them. A lot of kids aren=E2=80=99t even =
allowed to eat them. Sugar itself doesn=E2=80=99t seem to be a Klingon =
item, given the loanword, so how about Su=E2=80=99ghar SojHommey. With =
that skit to translate, I would have simply had the children buying =
yuch. Unless there is a particular sponsor to mollify, why not? Branch =
out and have them buying vetlh mIQ and other tasty Klingon-style treats. =
Different cultures have different foods should be a lesson not alien to =
children=E2=80=99s TV. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Good on you with the show. Don=E2=80=99t forget to translate, =
=E2=80=9CPlease may I have ...=E2=80=9D with =
=E2=80=9CHInob=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>- Qov<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Fiat Knox =
[mailto:fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk] <br><b>Sent:</b> September 3, 2014 =
3:45<br><b>To:</b> Klingon List<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tlhingan-hol] =
Sweets<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>I've =
been invited to participate in a BBC TV show teaching children to speak =
Klingon. Only a crash course, but the producer had the idea that the =
kids could run a scenario where they go out and buy sweets in =
Klingon.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>So I'm =
running the following ideas past you for terms they could be using =
during the show.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black'>puq Soj - sweets<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black'>We already have leng Soj from KGT, but "puq =
Soj" seems more appropriate for this =
show.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>naHlet =
yuch - chocolate (covered) nuts<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black'>naHHom yuch - chocolate (covered) =
raisins<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>qagh =
ngeb - sugar worms (literally "false qagh") (probably they'd =
use dyed liquorice shoelaces)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black'><br>They're kids, and it is a British kids' show so =
nobody's expecting them to come out of it spouting Klingon poetry; but I =
just wanted to pass these by you so you could comment and offer =
advice.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>
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