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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] suffices on verb-adjectives

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Tue Sep 2 10:10:42 2014

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:10:33 +0000
In-Reply-To: <8D1945BE0325A24-16BC-14731@webmail-d284.sysops.aol.com>
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qheyIl:
> TKD is quite prescriptive in the use of suffices on verbal adjectives (TK=
D 4.4): =

> vsR {-qu'} can be added as an intensifier - {Dujmey tInqu'} (very big shi=
ps)
> ns5 {-Daq} is added to the verbal adjective when it is called for on the =
noun
>  - {veng tInqu'Daq} (in the very big city)
> Have we received any additional information about such suffices?
> I'm thinking specifically of {-be'} which would seem to be a very logical=
 usage
>  where a verb-adjective with an=A0opposite-meaning=A0does not exist - {we=
p Doqbe'}
>  (the not-red jacket). Or do we stick with the more traditional {Doqbe'bo=
gh wep}?

A quick scan of my notes finds these examples of the Rover {-be'} on qualit=
ies:

  wa'maH yIHmey lI'be' =

  ten useless tribbles. PK

  tera'ngan motlhbe' SoH =

  You are an unusual Terran. PK

  'utbe' bel =

  Pleasure is nonessential. TKW

  leghlaHchu'be'chugh mIn lo'laHbe' taj jej =

  A sharp knife is nothing without a sharp eye. TKW =


  nI'be' yInmaj 'ach wovqu' =

  Our lives burn short and bright. (Anthem)

  QuchlIj vIl law'be' QuchwIj vIl puSbe' =

  your forehead isn't ridgier than my forehead (HQ 13.1:10)

Hmm... I would have expected more.  Don't forget the paired qualities liste=
d in the glossaries:

jub  		be immortal =

jubbe'  	be mortal

le'  		be special, be exceptional
le'be'  	be unexceptional,  be nonspecific,  be general

lI'  		be useful =

lI'be'  	be useless

lo'laH  	be valuable =

lo'laHbe'  be worthless

motlh  	be usual,  be normal,  be standard
motlhbe'  	be unusual

rur  		resemble
rurbe'  	be different


--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons






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