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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Bottle Opening and Drinking, al-Amarjan Style
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lieven)
Wed Aug 20 12:00:13 2014
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:59:57 +0200
From: Lieven <levinius@gmx.de>
To: "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"
<tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
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jaj 20.08.2014 16:44, ghItlh SuStel:
> The distinction seems to be that one side of a {QemjIq} does not have
an outlet, while a {qung} is a penetration in a barrier between one side
and another.
jaj 20.08.2014 17:27, ghItlh Steven Boozer:
> So {qung} seems to focus on an opening *through something* while
{QemjIq} focuses on an opening *into something (with a bottom)*, e.g.
bottle, hole/pit in the ground, tree hollow, vat/keg, bowls, etc.
I would not count a bottle or vat into this. I believe SuStel's
description is better. The opening of a bottle is technically spoken no
difference to any hole in its surrounding surface.
If you have a hole in the ground, but there is a huge cave below, then
that hole is a {qung} which you use to enter the cave. Even tough you
may be able to "fill" that cave.
I wouldnt say a {QemjIq} is an opening "into" something. It's more like
the "lack of" a perfect surface. When you take a spoon of pudding, you
have created a {QemjIq}. The skin of the pudding (you know, that dry
milk that some people do not like) is penetrated in that case, and will
have a {qung}.
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Lieven L. Litaer
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