[99119] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Too short
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Wed Jul 2 07:37:17 2014
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 07:37:04 -0400
From: SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
In-Reply-To: <53B3B1CD.1040504@gmx.de>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@kli.org
On 7/2/2014 3:16 AM, Lieven wrote:
> Am 01.07.2014 21:42, ghItlh SuStel:
>> When spoken aloud, the above has a pause where the colon is, but it
>> doesn't sound like you're finished with an idea. The commas are slight
>> pauses, but leading into the next word. Only at the periods do you
>> finish your idea and rest.
> [...]
>
>> So: use small FORMAL sentences, but group them into single ideas.
>
> That's true what SuStel says. I like to add the conjunction part,
> because that easily creates longer sentences, without making them really
> "long". In your example, it's easy, without changing the word order but
> by exchanging commas by conjunctions:
>
> 1. tlha'a HoD vIHo': HoS, val, vaQ, Duj Doj ra'. vIqIH vIneH.
>
> 2. tlha'a HoD vIHo': HoS, val, vaQ 'ej Duj Doj ra'mo' vaj vIqIH vIneH.
>
> I admire Captain Klaa: he is strong, clever, aggressive AND BECAUSE he
> commands an impressive ship SO I want to meet him (full stop).
>
> (the SO part sounds weird in english but is okay in klingon)
I wasn't thinking of the {Duj Doj ra'} part as being separate from the
{HoS, val, vaQ} part. As I was saying, I just mashed them together
because they were all part of a single idea: listing Captain Klaa's
admirable qualities, including the commanding of an impressive ship. If
I were to punctuate the way you presented it, I'd use:
tlha'a HoD vIHo: HoS, val, vaQ. Duj Doj ra'mo' vIqIH vIneH.
The first idea: I admire Captain Klaa, and here's why. Second idea: I
want to meet him because he commands an impressive ship. Together, this
means something different than what I originally said.
--
SuStel
http://www.trimboli.name/
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