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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] ghargh'a Doq Hud'a' je -- wa' vI' wa'DIch

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Sun Jun 22 19:34:51 2014

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From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 06:19:48 -0700
To: Gaerfindel <gaerfindel@hotmail.com>
Cc: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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> On Jun 22, 2014, at 5:32, Gaerfindel <gaerfindel@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 6/20/2014 2:47 PM, Gaerfindel wrote:
>> I'm sure that by now everyone has seen the duel between Gregor "The Mount=
ain" Clegane and Oberyn "The Red Viper" Martell.  That's exactly what I'm go=
ing to *attempt* to describe in Klingon.  Wish me luck!
> So after much hel -- particularly with the difference between {lung} and {=
ghargh} -- I've reworked the first part of the tale: The Call to Attention.
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> {Qoy!  Qoy

Is Qoy an order or a statement?  The former would be clearer with an imperat=
ive prefix. Also if it's an order, putting the vocative before the order kin=
da makes sense. As in: hey you, do this.=20

> Hoch jupwi'pu'!=20

-pu' is type 2. -wI' is type 4 and spelled incorrectly.=20

> SeymoH lut.  pIlmoH lut.  DunmoH

nuq DunmoH?

> 'ej 'IQmoHbogh lut.

With the type 9 this becomes a sentence fragment.=20

>   Haychu'ta' ghargh Doq HuD je lut Samuch!}

A comma between elements in an anded list helps readability.=20

You also need punctuation between the two sentences. yap . : ; ghap.=20

"A red/orange serpent/worm and a mountain duel to the death" and "I present y=
ou with the story.".=20

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> Whaddya think?

lut'e' vIlaD 'e' vIloS. lutvam vISovbe' 'ej lutmey vItIv.=20

-Qov
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> ~quljIb
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><br></div><div><br>On Jun 22, 2014, at 5:32, Gaerfindel &lt;<a href="mailto:gaerfindel@hotmail.com">gaerfindel@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/20/2014 2:47 PM, Gaerfindel wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote cite="mid:BLU436-SMTP7327FDD033BD17BC432060D2120@phx.gbl" type="cite">
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      <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">I'm sure that by now
        everyone has seen the duel between Gregor "The Mountain" Clegane
        and Oberyn "The Red Viper" Martell.&nbsp; That's exactly what I'm
        going to *attempt* to describe in Klingon.&nbsp; Wish me luck!<br>
      </font></blockquote>
    So after much hel -- particularly with the difference between {lung}
    and {ghargh} -- I've reworked the first part of the tale: The Call
    to Attention.<br>
    <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br>
      {Qoy!&nbsp; Qoy </font><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"></font></div></blockquote><br>Is Qoy an order or a statement? &nbsp;The former would be clearer with an imperative prefix. Also if it's an order, putting the vocative before the order kinda makes sense. As in: hey you, do this.&nbsp;<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Hoch </font>jupwi'pu'!&nbsp;</font></div></blockquote><div><br></div>-pu' is type 2. -wI' is type 4 and spelled incorrectly.&nbsp;<br><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">
      SeymoH lut.&nbsp; pIlmoH lut.</font><font face="Times New Roman, Times,
      serif"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">&nbsp; DunmoH</font></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div>nuq DunmoH?</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><font face="Times New Roman, Times,
      serif"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">'ej
        'IQmoHbogh lut.</font></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div>With the type 9 this becomes a sentence fragment.&nbsp;</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><font face="Times New Roman, Times,
      serif">&nbsp; Haychu'ta' ghargh Doq HuD je lut
      Samuch!}<br></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div>A comma between elements in an anded list helps readability.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>You also need punctuation between the two sentences. yap . : ; ghap.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>"A red/orange serpent/worm and a mountain duel to the death" and "I present you with the story.".&nbsp;</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><font face="Times New Roman, Times,
      serif">
      <br>
      Whaddya think?<br></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div>lut'e' vIlaD 'e' vIloS. lutvam vISovbe' 'ej lutmey vItIv.&nbsp;<br><div><br></div>-Qov<br><blockquote type="cite"><div><font face="Times New Roman, Times,
      serif">
      <br>
      ~quljIb<br>
    </font><br>
  

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