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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] 'arDaq

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Mon Jun 16 16:28:53 2014

From: "Robyn Stewart" <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 13:28:31 -0700
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vaghmaH ben ghel Guido wa=E2=80=99. jatlh,=20

=E2=80=9CyIH nachHey 'arDaq SuplaH tlhIngan?=E2=80=9D

ghaH vIqaw. rurchuqmo=E2=80=99 Dujmaj jIHem.




- Qov

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From: qurgh lungqIj [mailto:qurgh@wizage.net]=20
Sent: June 16, 2014 12:56
To: Robyn Stewart
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] 'arDaq

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The qaghwI' at the start of a sentence maybe confusing it. When I =
searched for arDaq I only got one hit though.

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qurgh

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On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca> =
wrote:

=E2=80=9CThe search "'arDaq" did not match any documents.=E2=80=9D  Are =
there search syntax tricks I need?

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It=E2=80=99s hard to believe this hasn=E2=80=99t come up. I happened to =
put =E2=80=98ar in the online course right after the N5 suffixes, and =
the style of the course made it a natural question.

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From: qurgh lungqIj [mailto:qurgh@wizage.net]=20
Sent: June 16, 2014 12:50
To: Robyn Stewart
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] 'arDaq

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You can search most of the archive via the new site at =
http://www.speakklingon.info/activities/email-discussion-group/

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I just haven't updated it to the most recent posts yet.

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qurgh

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On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca> =
wrote:

I=E2=80=99d do an archive search but ... website search sucks.

Have we ever discussed the extension of =E2=80=98ar beyond subject and =
object?

We have the examples:
nIn =E2=80=98ar wIghaj?
Haw=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99 yaS =E2=80=98ar?

I imagine that at some point I have said something like one of the =
following in conversation, completely unaware that I was doing anything =
odd.

?quS =E2=80=98arDaq nav vIlannIS? =E2=80=93 How many chairs do I need to =
place paper on?
?HoH =E2=80=98armo=E2=80=99 bortaS wISuq?- How many killings will we get =
vengeance for?
?nuv =E2=80=98arvaD Soj wIje=E2=80=99nIS? =E2=80=93 How many people do =
we need to buy food for?


These two feel weirder, especially the last. I would omit the =
=E2=80=93=E2=80=98e=E2=80=99
?tera=E2=80=99Daq be=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98IH =E2=80=98ar =
tu=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99? =E2=80=93 How many beautiful women are there on =
Earth?
?muj mu=E2=80=99tlhegh =E2=80=98ar=E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 qonbogh Qov?

In the light of =E2=80=98arlogh and qep=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99 wejDIchDaq I =
think I would argue for these forms.=20

-Qov


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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>vaghmaH ben ghel Guido wa=E2=80=99. jatlh, =
<br><br></span>=E2=80=9CyIH nachHey 'arDaq SuplaH =
tlhIngan?=E2=80=9D<br><br>ghaH vIqaw. rurchuqmo=E2=80=99 Dujmaj =
jIHem.<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></pre><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>- Qov<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> qurgh =
lungqIj [mailto:qurgh@wizage.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> June 16, 2014 =
12:56<br><b>To:</b> Robyn Stewart<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] =
'arDaq<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The =
qaghwI' at the start of a sentence maybe confusing it. When I searched =
for arDaq I only got one hit though.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>qurgh<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Robyn Stewart &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca" =
target=3D"_blank">robyn@flyingstart.ca</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>=E2=80=9CThe=
 search &quot;'arDaq&quot; did not match any documents.=E2=80=9D&nbsp; =
Are there search syntax tricks I need?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It=E2=80=99s=
 hard to believe this hasn=E2=80=99t come up. I happened to put =
=E2=80=98ar in the online course right after the N5 suffixes, and the =
style of the course made it a natural question.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> qurgh =
lungqIj [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:qurgh@wizage.net" =
target=3D"_blank">qurgh@wizage.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> June 16, 2014 =
12:50<br><b>To:</b> Robyn Stewart<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] =
'arDaq</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You can =
search most of the archive via the new site at <a =
href=3D"http://www.speakklingon.info/activities/email-discussion-group/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.speakklingon.info/activities/email-discussio=
n-group/</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I just =
haven't updated it to the most recent posts =
yet.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>qurgh<o:p></=
o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p><=
/p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, Jun =
16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Robyn Stewart &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca" =
target=3D"_blank">robyn@flyingstart.ca</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I=E2=80=99d do an archive =
search but ... website search sucks.</span><br><br><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Have we ever discussed the =
extension of =E2=80=98ar beyond subject and object?<br><br>We have the =
examples:<br>nIn =E2=80=98ar wIghaj?</span><br><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Haw=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99 yaS =
=E2=80=98ar?</span><br><br><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I imagine that at some =
point I have said something like one of the following in conversation, =
completely unaware that I was doing anything odd.<br></span><br><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>?quS =E2=80=98arDaq</span> =
<span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>nav</span> <span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>vIlannIS? =E2=80=93 How =
many chairs do I need to place paper on?</span><br><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>?HoH =E2=80=98armo=E2=80=99 =
bortaS wISuq?- How many killings will we get</span> <span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>vengeance =
for?</span><br><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>?nuv =
=E2=80=98arvaD Soj wIje=E2=80=99nIS? =E2=80=93 How many people do we =
need to buy food for?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><br><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>These two feel weirder, =
especially the last. I would omit the =
=E2=80=93=E2=80=98e=E2=80=99</span><br><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>?tera=E2=80=99Daq =
be=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98IH =E2=80=98ar tu=E2=80=99lu=E2=80=99? =E2=80=93 =
How many beautiful women are there on Earth?<br>?muj mu=E2=80=99tlhegh =
=E2=80=98ar=E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 qonbogh Qov?</span><br><br><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In the light of =
=E2=80=98arlogh and qep=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99 wejDIchDaq</span> <span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I think I would argue for =
these forms. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>-Qov</span><o:p></o:p></p></=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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