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[Tlhingan-hol] 'arDaq
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Mon Jun 16 15:46:18 2014
From: "Robyn Stewart" <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:45:56 -0700
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I'd do an archive search but ... website search sucks.
Have we ever discussed the extension of 'ar beyond subject and object?
We have the examples:
nIn 'ar wIghaj?
Haw'pu' yaS 'ar?
I imagine that at some point I have said something like one of the following
in conversation, completely unaware that I was doing anything odd.
?quS 'arDaq nav vIlannIS? - How many chairs do I need to place paper on?
?HoH 'armo' bortaS wISuq?- How many killings will we get vengeance for?
?nuv 'arvaD Soj wIje'nIS? - How many people do we need to buy food for?
These two feel weirder, especially the last. I would omit the -'e'
?tera'Daq be' 'IH 'ar tu'lu'? - How many beautiful women are there on Earth?
?muj mu'tlhegh 'ar'e' qonbogh Qov?
In the light of 'arlogh and qep'a' wejDIchDaq I think I would argue for
these forms.
-Qov
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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">I’d do an =
archive search but ... website</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri"> search sucks</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><BR>
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<FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Have we ever discussed the extension of ‘ar =
beyond subject and object?<BR>
<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">We have the =
examples:<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">nIn ‘ar =
wIghaj</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><BR>
<FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Haw</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">pu’ yaS ‘ar?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-ca"><BR>
<BR>
<FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">I imagine that at some point I have said =
something like one of the following in conversation, completely unaware =
that I was doing anything odd.<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><BR>
<FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">quS</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri"> ‘ar</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">Daq</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"> <FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">nav</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"> <FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">v</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">IlannIS?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri"> – How many chairs do I need to place paper =
on?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><BR>
<FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">HoH ‘armo’ bortaS wISuq?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">- How many killings will we =
get</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"> <FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">vengeance =
for?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><BR>
<FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">nuv ‘arvaD Soj wIje’nIS?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri"> – How many people do we =
need to buy food for?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><BR>
<FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">These two feel weirder, especially the last. I =
would omit the –‘e’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-ca"><BR>
<FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">tera’Daq be’ ‘IH ‘ar =
tu’lu’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">? – How many beautiful women are there on =
Earth?<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">?muj =
mu’tlhegh ‘ar’e’ qonbogh Qov?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-ca"><BR>
<BR>
<FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">In the light of ‘arlogh and =
qep’a’ wejDIchDaq</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"> <FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">I think I would argue for the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">se forms. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">-Qov</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><BR>
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