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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] redditor wants to know why Klingon speakers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sam Rolens)
Wed May 28 19:15:27 2014

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Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 16:14:52 -0700
From: Sam Rolens <scrolens@gmail.com>
To: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
Cc: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org>
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There's a girl on this thread claiming to be fluent in Klingon, despite
disliking the language and Star Trek, because her father taught it to her
when she was young, and that she doesn't know any other Klingon speakers
besides her father. Is there any possibility this is true? I've reached out
to her, but I'm skeptical of her ability to get fluent under those
circumstances.

Sam


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>wrote:

> I glanced at the thread and it was a morasse of profanity and Bingon.  One
> of the commenters proclaims that "No one really speaks Klingon: it's just
> some phrases and disconnected words you can learn."
>
> I would like to do something to overcome that probably widely-held belief.
> It's kind of the counter to  another common belief, that many people speak
> Klingon, such that it would be commonly heard at Star Trek conventions.
>
> I think both stem from misunderstandings about the tools available and the
> process of learning a language. Or even what it is to communicate in a
> foreign language. And where Klingon is concerned, it falls squarely in the
> KLI's bailiwick to ensure that excellent tools are available, and to offer
> help to people who have managed to achieve or approach adulthood without
> the
> opportunity to learn a foreign language.
>
> - Qov
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: De'vID [mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com]
> Sent: May 28, 2014 10:02
> To: tlhIngan-Hol
> Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] redditor wants to know why Klingon speakers speak
> Klingon
>
> Do'Ha', SaghHa' jangwI'pu' law'. (reddit-Daq motlhba' ghu'vam.)
>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/26p22y/redditors_who_speak_klingo
> n_why/
>
> --
> De'vID
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">There&#39;s a girl on this thread claiming to be fluent in=
 Klingon, despite disliking the language and Star Trek, because her father =
taught it to her when she was young, and that she doesn&#39;t know any othe=
r Klingon speakers besides her father. Is there any possibility this is tru=
e? I&#39;ve reached out to her, but I&#39;m skeptical of her ability to get=
 fluent under those circumstances.<div>
<br></div><div>Sam</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Robyn Stewart <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca" target=3D"_blank">roby=
n@flyingstart.ca</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I glanced at the thread and it was a morasse=
 of profanity and Bingon. =C2=A0One<br>
of the commenters proclaims that &quot;No one really speaks Klingon: it&#39=
;s just<br>
some phrases and disconnected words you can learn.&quot;<br>
<br>
I would like to do something to overcome that probably widely-held belief.<=
br>
It&#39;s kind of the counter to =C2=A0another common belief, that many peop=
le speak<br>
Klingon, such that it would be commonly heard at Star Trek conventions.<br>
<br>
I think both stem from misunderstandings about the tools available and the<=
br>
process of learning a language. Or even what it is to communicate in a<br>
foreign language. And where Klingon is concerned, it falls squarely in the<=
br>
KLI&#39;s bailiwick to ensure that excellent tools are available, and to of=
fer<br>
help to people who have managed to achieve or approach adulthood without th=
e<br>
opportunity to learn a foreign language.<br>
<br>
- Qov<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: De&#39;vID [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.=
jonpin@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Sent: May 28, 2014 10:02<br>
To: tlhIngan-Hol<br>
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] redditor wants to know why Klingon speakers speak<b=
r>
Klingon<br>
<br>
Do&#39;Ha&#39;, SaghHa&#39; jangwI&#39;pu&#39; law&#39;. (reddit-Daq motlhb=
a&#39; ghu&#39;vam.)<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/26p22y/redditors_who_=
speak_klingo
n_why/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/26p22y=
/redditors_who_speak_klingo<br>
n_why/</a><br>
<br>
--<br>
De&#39;vID<br>
<br>
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