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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: juv

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bellerophon, modeler)
Tue May 6 14:21:25 2014

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Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 10:11:38 -0400
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Words relating to measurement (and counting, which is related) are of
interest to me with my background in engineering and scale modeling. Not to
step on Voragh's bootspike, here are some more.

chaDvay=E2=80=99 radio frequency, Hertz (unit of frequency) (presumably equ=
al to
lup^-1) (n)
cheb unit of weight (or mass?), about 5 lb or 2.25 kg (n)
cheb=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99 9 cheb =3D about 45 lb or 20.25 kg (n)
DarSeq darsek (unit of currency) (n)
DeQ credit (unit of currency) (n)
DIS year (Klingon) (n)
Hogh week (Klingon) (n)
jaj day (from dawn to dawn) (n)
jar month (Klingon) (n)
loghqam unit of length, about 1.25 light years (n)
lup second (of time) (n)
mI=E2=80=99 number (n)
pIq time period from now (n)
poH period of time (n)
qav=E2=80=99ap value, amount (of money) (n)
qelI=E2=80=99qam kellicam (unit of length), about 2 km (n)
rep hour (Klingon unit of time, presumably) (n)
tup minute (of time) (Klingon unit of time, presumably) (n)
ret time period ago (n)
tlhaq chronometer, clock
tlho=E2=80=99ren unit of volume, about 1 quart or 1 liter (n)
=E2=80=99uj unit of length, about 13.75" or 35 cm (n)
=E2=80=99uj=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99 9 uj =3D about 10'4" or 315 cm (n)

mach be small (v)
ngaj be short (in duration) (v)
nI=E2=80=99 be long, be lengthy (duration) (v)
poH time (presumably meaning to measure duration, as with a stopwatch) (v)
run be short (in stature) (v)
tIn be big (v)
tIq be long, be lengthy (of an object) (v)
tIS be light (weight) (v)
togh count (v)
woch be tall (v)
=E2=80=99ugh be heavy (v)

We know a lot of Klingon words relating to measurement, but the only one
for a measuring device I could think of is {tlhaq}. Perhaps equivalents to
ruler or yardstick are ?{'uj naQ} and ?{'uj'a' naQ}. I believe a
measurement device in general would be called {juvmeH jan}.

~'eD

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote=
:

> > Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, May 05, 2014
> >
> > Klingon word: juv
> > Part of speech: verb
> > Definition: measure
>
> st.k (10/22/97):  refers to the action of somebody who is taking a
> measurement
>
> FYI the "measurement verbs":
>
> juch            have a width of (v)
> Saw'            have a depth of (v)
> 'ab             have a length of (v)
> 'aD             have a length of (v)
> muq             have a volume of (v)
> ngI'            have a weight of, weigh (v)
>
>
>   naQjej vIjuv
>   I measure the spear (st.k)
>
> vs.
>
>   wej 'uj 'ab naQjej
>   the spear has a length of three *uj*
>   the spear measures three *uj*
>   the spear is three *uj* long  (st.k)
>
> Is there any measuring in the paq'batlh?
>
>
> --
> Voragh
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Words=C2=A0relating to measurement (and counting, whi=
ch is related)=C2=A0are of interest to me with my background in engineering=
 and scale modeling. Not to step on Voragh&#39;s bootspike, here are some m=
ore.</div>
<div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">chaDva=
y=E2=80=99<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>radio frequenc=
y, Hertz (unit of frequency) (presumably equal to lup^-1) (n)</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra">
cheb<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>unit of weight (or =
mass?), about 5 lb or 2.25 kg=C2=A0(n)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">cheb=
=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>9 che=
b =3D about 45 lb or 20.25 kg=C2=A0(n)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">DarSeq<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre"=
>	</span>darsek (unit of currency)=C2=A0(n)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
>DeQ<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>credit (unit of cur=
rency)=C2=A0(n)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">DIS<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		=
</span>year (Klingon)=C2=A0(n)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Hogh<span cl=
ass=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>week (Klingon)=C2=A0(n)</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra">
jaj<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>day (from dawn to da=
wn)=C2=A0(n)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">jar<span class=3D"" style=3D"w=
hite-space:pre">		</span>month (Klingon)=C2=A0(n)</div><div class=3D"gmail_=
extra">loghqam<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>unit of le=
ngth, about 1.25 light years=C2=A0(n)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">lup<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		=
</span>second (of time)=C2=A0(n)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">mI=E2=80=
=99<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>number=C2=A0(n)</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra">pIq<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
	</span>time period from now=C2=A0(n)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">poH<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		=
</span>period of time=C2=A0(n)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">qav=E2=80=99=
ap<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>value, amount (of mone=
y)=C2=A0(n)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">
qelI=E2=80=99qam<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>kellicam=
 (unit of length), about 2 km=C2=A0(n)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">rep<=
span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>hour (Klingon unit of ti=
me, presumably)=C2=A0(n)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">tup<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		=
</span>minute (of time) (Klingon unit of time, presumably)=C2=A0(n)</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra">ret<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		</=
span>time period ago=C2=A0(n)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">tlhaq<span style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>ch=
ronometer, clock</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">tlho=E2=80=99ren<span clas=
s=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>unit of volume, about 1 quart or 1=
 liter=C2=A0(n)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">=E2=80=99uj<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space=
:pre">		</span>unit of length, about 13.75&quot; or 35 cm=C2=A0(n)</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra">=E2=80=99uj=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99<span class=3D"" styl=
e=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>9 uj =3D about 10&#39;4&quot; or 315 cm=C2=
=A0(n)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">mach<span c=
lass=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>be small=C2=A0(v)</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra">ngaj<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>=
be short (in duration)=C2=A0(v)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">nI=E2=80=99<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space=
:pre">		</span>be long, be lengthy (duration)=C2=A0(v)</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_extra">poH <span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>time (p=
resumably meaning to measure duration, as with a stopwatch)=C2=A0(v)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">run<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		=
</span>be short (in stature)=C2=A0(v)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">tIn<s=
pan class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>be big=C2=A0(v)</div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_extra">
tIq<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>be long, be lengthy =
(of an object)=C2=A0(v)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">tIS<span class=3D""=
 style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>be light (weight)=C2=A0(v)</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra">
togh<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>count=C2=A0(v)</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra">woch<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">=
	</span>be tall=C2=A0(v)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=E2=80=99ugh<span =
class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>be heavy=C2=A0(v)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div>We kno=
w a lot of Klingon words relating to measurement, but the only one for a me=
asuring device I could think of is {tlhaq}. Perhaps equivalents to ruler or=
 yardstick are ?{&#39;uj naQ} and ?{&#39;uj&#39;a&#39; naQ}. I believe a me=
asurement device in general would be called {juvmeH jan}.</div>
<div><br></div><div>~&#39;eD</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On M=
on, May 5, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Steven Boozer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" target=3D"_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">&gt; Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, May 05, 2014<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Klingon word: juv<br>
&gt; Part of speech: verb<br>
&gt; Definition: measure<br>
<br>
st.k (10/22/97): =C2=A0refers to the action of somebody who is taking a mea=
surement<br>
<br>
FYI the &quot;measurement verbs&quot;:<br>
<br>
juch =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0have a width of (v)<br>
Saw&#39; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0have a depth of (v)<br>
&#39;ab =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 have a length of (v)<br>
&#39;aD =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 have a length of (v)<br>
muq =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 have a volume of (v)<br>
ngI&#39; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0have a weight of, weigh (=
v)<br>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 naQjej vIjuv<br>
=C2=A0 I measure the spear (st.k)<br>
<br>
vs.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 wej &#39;uj &#39;ab naQjej<br>
=C2=A0 the spear has a length of three *uj*<br>
=C2=A0 the spear measures three *uj*<br>
=C2=A0 the spear is three *uj* long =C2=A0(st.k)<br>
<br>
Is there any measuring in the paq&#39;batlh?<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Voragh<br>
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