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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Canon for answering negative questions
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com)
Tue May 6 14:18:56 2014
From: lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 09:24:42 -0400
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Likely {'umbe'} means "not qualified", while {'umHa'} means =
"disqualified".
On May 5, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Brad Wilson <bmacliam@aol.com> wrote:
> Expanding on something SuStel wrote:
> >>> Klingon can't be misunderstood this way because it combines the =
"is-not" with the "not-qualified" into a single word, =
"not-is-qualified."
> A) Isn't the man qualified?
> B) Is the man not qualified?
> C) Is the man unqualified?
> Being that {'um} is a "verb of state", it may turn on the use of =
{-Ha'} or {-be'}, or perhaps some more complicated.
> I would equate B=3DC, and possibly say {'umHa''a' loD?}, although it's =
been pointed out that this would likely mean he was qualified once, and =
now is not.
> To me, {'umbe''a' loD?} is A.
> gheyIl
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after-white-space;"><div>Likely {'umbe'} means "not qualified", while =
{'umHa'} means "disqualified".</div><br><div><div>On May 5, 2014, at =
5:47 PM, Brad Wilson <<a =
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9pt;"><tt><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Expanding on =
something SuStel wrote:</font></tt></pre><pre style=3D"font-size: =
9pt;"><tt><font face=3D"Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">>>> =
</font></tt><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, =
sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Klingon can't </span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt;">be misunderstood this way because it combines the "is-not" with =
the </span><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, =
sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">"not-qualified" into a single word, =
"not-is-qualified."</span></pre></tt></pre><pre style=3D"font-size: =
9pt;"><tt><font face=3D"Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">A) Isn't the =
man qualified?</font></tt></pre><pre style=3D"font-size: 9pt;"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt;">B) Is the man not qualified?</span></pre><pre style=3D"font-size: =
9pt;"><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; =
font-size: 9pt;">C) Is the man unqualified?</span></pre><pre =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt;"><tt><font face=3D"Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, =
sans-serif">Being that {'um} is a "verb of state", it may turn on the =
use of {-Ha'} or {-be'}, or perhaps some more =
complicated.</font></tt></pre><pre style=3D"font-size: 9pt;"><tt><font =
face=3D"Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">I would equate B=3DC, and =
possibly say {'umHa''a' loD?}, although it's been pointed out that this =
would likely mean he was qualified once, and now is =
not.</font></tt></pre><pre style=3D"font-size: 9pt;"><tt><font =
face=3D"Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">To me, {'umbe''a' loD?} is =
A.</font></tt></pre><pre style=3D"font-size: 9pt;"><tt><font =
face=3D"Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">gheyIl</font></tt></pre><pre =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt;"><tt><font face=3D"Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, =
sans-serif"><br>
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