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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: lurSa'

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lieven)
Fri Apr 18 03:27:46 2014

Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 09:27:29 +0200
From: Lieven <levinius@gmx.de>
To: "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"
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ghel Qov:
>> So ... when we put an adverb modifying the second sentence *before* 'e',
>> it's ...

jang SuStel:
> * ... because the rules in TKD say that adverbials (reH) come before
> objects ('e'), and we don't know why this sole example breaks that rule.

I agree with TKD, and therefore do agree with SuStel.

As we have read somewhere else in a parallel discussion, it seems that 
most of us have better knowledge of Klingon Grammar than Okrand does. If 
he makes a mistake once in a while, I would not always take that as 
being a new rule, especially as it contradicts the existing rules. I 
would only accept that, when he definitely explains a new rule, like he 
did with toasts or dialects.

And besides of that, every langauge may have strange exceptions, or 
"bad" examples. Even the best teacher or professor I had had, did big 
mistakes in his lessons. Nobody is perfect.

tlhIngan Hol pab vIghoj reH 'e' vInID.

ja' SuStel:
 > I happen to believe that Marc fell into the common trap of thinking of
 > {'e'} as a conjunction rather than an object.

That seems very obvious to me. In my opinion.

-- 
Lieven L. Litaer
aka Quvar valer 'utlh
http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher

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