[98391] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Translating the past
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Sat Apr 12 18:34:55 2014
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 18:34:25 -0400
From: SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
In-Reply-To: <50B60C6D-35AA-4BF9-9D39-7F2B11D99BE9@alcaco.net>
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On 4/12/2014 10:23 AM, ghunchu'wI' wrote:
> *wa'Hu' **jIghung.* /Yesterday I was hungry./
> *DaHjaj jI'oj.* /Today I am thirsty./
> *wa'leS jIDoy'.* /Tomorrow I'll be tired./
>
> This doesn't merely support the "no aspect can be any tense" position.
> It /prescribes/ it.
I wasn't hungry at a particular moment yesterday, I was just hungry in
general. If I said {wa'Hu' jIghungpu'} I'd be saying there was a
particular moment yesterday when I was hungry.
These sentences do, by the way, exhibit tense. The tense simply isn't
encoded in a verb suffix. They also exhibit aspect. The aspect is one of
generality.
Yesterday (tense), over the course of the day (aspect), I was hungry.
If I said {wa'Hu' jIghungchoH}, that's another aspect: yesterday there
was a time when I wasn't hungry, then that changed and I was hungry from
that point forward. This might be called ingressive aspect. Yet it's not
from a Type 7 suffix!
> Our principal example of canonical Klingon narrative, the paq'batlh,
When did a story not written by Okrand become "our principal example of
canonical Klingon narrative"?
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