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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Certification Test Woes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bellerophon, modeler)
Tue Apr 1 21:36:46 2014
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:36:22 -0400
From: "Bellerophon, modeler" <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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I'd welcome the chance to pass a beginner-level test. The 500-word
vocabulary is a high hurdle for my old brain.
There isn't actually a need for a separate test, either. The lazy solution
is to use the Level 1 test. If the score isn't high enough for "Level 1"
proficiency, then there's a lower bar for "Beginner" proficiency, instead
of just "close, but no cigar."
~'eD
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:45 PM, d'Armond Speers, Ph.D. <
speersd@georgetown.edu> wrote:
> It's interesting to go over what we did do, what we considered and decided
> not to do, and what we failed to consider. I think the KLCP has proven a
> useful tool over the many years it's been in use, but being honest about
> its shortcomings and having constructive discussions about ways to improve
> it is a positive thing. I also don't want to over-engineer things, if the
> current design is (mostly) working. Adding a 0.5 level as a "warm-up"
> sounds like a good idea to me. Volunteers? :)
>
> --Holtej
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Brad Wilson <bmacliam@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I was waiting for the "just suck it up" response, and Lawrence did not disappoint. }};-)
>>
>> But seriously, I certainly didn't mean to start a SuS'a' in a Dargh HIvje'.
>>
>> Having never taken the cert test myself (or even met another Klingonist in person), I am only projecting my perceptions based on what I read in others' comments.
>>
>> I do look forward to the study course, and eventually taking the exams ... in whatever form they are presented.
>>
>> <pItlh> bojatlh 'e' vIloS. Su' !!
>>
>> gheyIl
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I'd welcome the chance to pass a beginner-level test. =
The 500-word vocabulary is a high hurdle for my old brain.<div>There isn=
9;t actually a need for a separate test, either. The lazy solution is to us=
e the Level 1 test. If the score isn't high enough for "Level 1&qu=
ot; proficiency, then there's a lower bar for "Beginner" prof=
iciency, instead of just "close, but no cigar."</div>
<div>~'eD</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:45 PM, d'Armond Speers, Ph.D. <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:speersd@georgetown.edu" target=3D"_blan=
k">speersd@georgetown.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">It's interesting to go =
over what we did do, what we considered and decided not to do, and what we =
failed to consider. =C2=A0I think the KLCP has proven a useful tool over th=
e many years it's been in use, but being honest about its shortcomings =
and having constructive discussions about ways to improve it is a positive =
thing. =C2=A0I also don't want to over-engineer things, if the current =
design is (mostly) working. =C2=A0Adding a 0.5 level as a "warm-up&quo=
t; sounds like a good idea to me. =C2=A0Volunteers? =C2=A0:)<div>
<br></div><div>--Holtej</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Brad Wilson <span dir=
=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bmacliam@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">bmacliam=
@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"arial">
<div style=3D"font-size:10pt">
<div style=3D"font-size:12px;margin:0px"><pre style=3D"font-size:9pt"><tt><=
font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was waiting for the "just=
suck it up" response, and Lawrence did not disappoint. }};-)</font></=
tt></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-size:9pt"><tt><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif=
">But seriously, I certainly didn't mean to start a SuS'a' in a=
Dargh HIvje'.</font></tt></pre><pre style=3D"font-size:9pt"><tt><font =
face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Having never taken the cert test myse=
lf (or even met another Klingonist in person), I am only projecting my perc=
eptions based on what I read in others' comments.</font></tt></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-size:9pt"><tt><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif=
">I do look forward to the study course, and eventually taking the exams ..=
. in whatever form they are presented.</font></tt></pre><pre style=3D"font-=
size:9pt">
<tt><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><pItlh> bojatlh '=
e' vIloS. </font></tt><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:9pt">Su' !!</span></pre><pre style=3D"font-size:9pt"><tt=
><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">gheyIl</font></tt></pre>
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