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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] before now
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Trimboli)
Mon Mar 3 08:01:08 2014
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 08:00:45 -0500
From: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmO84uNMT7ZrUpyOWLMyoMxqYWtZLMarNHfn7syoLaZKyw@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@kli.org
On 3/3/2014 4:36 AM, De'vID wrote:
> De'vID:
>>>>> How would you express "before now"? "I haven't done
>>>>> this (e.g., written a manuscript) before now."
>>>>>
>>>>> {ret not ghItlh vIqon}? Can {ret} be used by itself as
>>>>> a time stamp, and can it precede an adverbial {not}?
>
> SuStel:
>>>> wej vIta'pu'.
>>>> wej ghItlh vIqonpu'
>
> It doesn't quite have the same sense or emphasis, though. {wej} "not
> yet" connotes a sense of anticipation that "not before now" does not.
>
> "I haven't yet done it" suggests that the speaker intends to do it,
> but hasn't yet. But "I haven't done it before now" implies nothing
> either way - perhaps the speaker intends to do it, but perhaps not.
Grumble, grumble. Then just say {vIta'pu'be'} or {vIta'be'pu'}
(whichever you agree with) "I haven't done it. The "before now" will
nearly always be understood. Naturally, if you say such a thing, you
mean you haven't done it up to now, but you're not saying anything about
the future.
--
SuStel
http://www.trimboli.name/
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