[98073] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qoH SuS je bopbogh lut'e'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Feb 24 09:56:25 2014
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:56:14 +0000
In-Reply-To: <BAY179-W757449DA9A1BA8F97C795BAA860@phx.gbl>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@kli.org
ghItlhpu' nIqolay, jatlh:
>> The only changes I made were [...] and also to use
>> "stone and brick" instead of "stone and mortar", simply because
>> we have a word for "brick" and not one for "mortar".
QeS:
> Well... no, not strictly. {ngogh} is really more "block" or "chunk"
> than "brick" specifically; we've seen it used to describe, among
> other things, pillows and loaves of bread. =
I'm not sure that nIqolay is wrong here, though I think he should specify w=
hat kind of brick/block. =
{ngogh} seems to be a (rectangular?) block/brick of something -- IOW a 3-di=
mensional shape. I.e.
{ngogh} block/brick : {letbaQ} rectangle =
{buq'Ir} cube : {meyrI'} square
With the recent words for shapes, we have some more 3D vs. 2D equivalents:
{moQ} sphere : {gho} circle =
{'Impey'} pyramid : {ra'Duch} triangle =
The word {ngogh} comes from the 9th qepHom'a' in Saarbr=FCcken when someone=
asked Okrand about pillows of all things:
Maltz first said that Klingons don't have pillows and he wondered
why anyone would want one. But he's seen them (somewhere) and knows
what they are. So when pushed - "If you have to call it something,
what would you call it?" - he said {ngogh tun}. A {ngogh} is a block
or lump or brick. [Maltz] said he's seen humans eating {yuch ngoghmey}
and found that strange. =
(Lieven L. Litaer, 12/07/2010)
Examples: {ngogh tun} "pillow", {nIm wIb ngogh} "[a block of?] cheese" TNK=
, {tIr ngogh} "bread" (i.e. a loaf?) TNK, {Ha'DIbaH ghIH tIr ngogh je} "bur=
ger" TNK. And although Okrand didn't use the Klingon word specifically:
KGT 93: A particularly popular dish, {tlhombuS}, requires that the cook co=
at a block of {tlhagh} [animal fat] with a mixture of {ngat} (herbed granul=
ated cartilage) and {tIr} (grain) and then briefly immerse the block into t=
he already boiling fat, just until the coating hardens.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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