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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qoH SuS je bopbogh lut'e'

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick)
Mon Feb 24 08:10:06 2014

From: Rohan Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:09:41 +1000
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ghItlhpu' nIqolay=2C jatlh:
> I attempted a translation of the famous "the wind does not respect a
> fool" story. I took the English text from the episode "Rightful Heir"
> where Kahless's clone recites the story. The only changes I made were
> to use third person instead of first person (since presumably most
> people who want to tell the story are not Kahless)=2C and also to use
> "stone and brick" instead of "stone and mortar"=2C simply because we
> have a word for "brick" and not one for "mortar".

Well... no=2C not strictly. {ngogh} is really more "block" or "chunk" than =
"brick" specifically=3B we've seen it used to describe=2C among other thing=
s=2C pillows and loaves of bread.=20

taH:
> "Long ago=2C a storm was heading toward the city of Quin'lat. The people
> sought protection within the walls. All except one man who remained
> outside. [Kahless] went to him and asked what he was doing. I am not
> afraid=2C he said. I will not hide my face behind stone and [brick]. I
> will stand before the wind and make it respect me. [Kahless] honoured
> his choice and went inside. The next day=2C the storm came and the man
> was killed. The wind does not respect a fool."
>=20
> ben law' QInlat veng ghoS jevbogh muD.

Hm. I'm not overly comfortable with {muD} to mean a specific weather phenom=
enon - only the weather in general. {jevbogh SuS} is probably all you need =
here.

> yergho qoDDaq Qan'egh Hoch ghotpu'. HurDaq ratlh wa' loD neH.
> ghaH ghoS qeylIS 'ej ghel. jatlh qeylIS=2C nuq Data'. jatlh loD=2C vIghIj=
be'lu'.

maj.

> nagh ngoch je

{ngoch} means "policy". The word you're looking for is {ngogh}.

> 'emDaq qabwIj vISo'Qo'. SuS tlhopDaq jIQam 'ej muvuv SuS 'e' vIraD.
>  wIvDaj laj qeylIS 'ej qoD jaH. jaj veb paw jevbogh muD 'ej loD HoHlu'.
> qoH vuvbe' SuS.

Well put Klingon. majQa'!

QeS
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>ghItlhpu' nIqolay=2C jatlh:<br>&=
gt=3B I attempted a translation of the famous "the wind does not respect a<=
br><div>&gt=3B fool" story. I took the English text from the episode "Right=
ful Heir"<br>&gt=3B where Kahless's clone recites the story. The only chang=
es I made were<br>&gt=3B to use third person instead of first person (since=
 presumably most<br>&gt=3B people who want to tell the story are not Kahles=
s)=2C and also to use<br>&gt=3B "stone and brick" instead of "stone and mor=
tar"=2C simply because we<br>&gt=3B have a word for "brick" and not one for=
 "mortar".<br><br>Well... no=2C not strictly. {ngogh} is really more "block=
" or "chunk" than "brick" specifically=3B we've seen it used to describe=2C=
 among other things=2C pillows and loaves of bread. <br><br>taH:<br>&gt=3B =
"Long ago=2C a storm was heading toward the city of Quin'lat. The people<br=
>&gt=3B sought protection within the walls. All except one man who remained=
<br>&gt=3B outside. [Kahless] went to him and asked what he was doing. I am=
 not<br>&gt=3B afraid=2C he said. I will not hide my face behind stone and =
[brick]. I<br>&gt=3B will stand before the wind and make it respect me. [Ka=
hless] honoured<br>&gt=3B his choice and went inside. The next day=2C the s=
torm came and the man<br>&gt=3B was killed. The wind does not respect a foo=
l."<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B ben law' QInlat veng ghoS jevbogh muD.<br><br>Hm. =
I'm not overly comfortable with {muD} to mean a specific weather phenomenon=
 - only the weather in general. {jevbogh SuS} is probably all you need here=
.<br><br>&gt=3B yergho qoDDaq Qan'egh Hoch ghotpu'. HurDaq ratlh wa' loD ne=
H.<br>&gt=3B ghaH ghoS qeylIS 'ej ghel. jatlh qeylIS=2C nuq Data'. jatlh lo=
D=2C vIghIjbe'lu'.<br><br>maj.<br><br>&gt=3B nagh ngoch je<br><br>{ngoch} m=
eans "policy". The word you're looking for is {ngogh}.<br><br>&gt=3B 'emDaq=
 qabwIj vISo'Qo'. SuS tlhopDaq jIQam 'ej muvuv SuS 'e' vIraD.<br>&gt=3B&nbs=
p=3B wIvDaj laj qeylIS 'ej qoD jaH. jaj veb paw jevbogh muD 'ej loD HoHlu'.=
<br>&gt=3B qoH vuvbe' SuS.<br><br>Well put Klingon. majQa'!<br><br>QeS<br><=
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