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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] -ing vs. -er

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Tue Jan 28 11:30:34 2014

From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: Lieven <levinius@gmx.de>
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:28:38 +0000
In-Reply-To: <52E7D04B.5010408@gmx.de>
Cc: "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"
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Lots of examples from EuroTalk Talk Now! Learn Klingon:

DIr QanwI' taS - suntan oil
QaDmoHwI' DIr - towel
mIllogh qonwI' qoSta' =96 photographic film (makes sense, because you can i=
nterpret it as "camera film")
Ho'Du' Say'moHwI' tlhagh - toothpaste (even though a toothbrush is called a=
 Ho' teywI')
Say'moHwI' tlhagh - soap

One migh argue that a jungle gym would be a {toSwI' qal'aq} rather than a {=
toSmeH qa'laq} because it doesn't really help you climb. That is, if you ne=
ed to climb from point A to point B, you wouldn't build a jungle gym to do =
it; it's a {mI'meH jan}, not a {ghoSmeH jan}.

Compare that to the structures that painters and builders set up to do work=
 on a building's exterior. Perhaps one of those would be a {toSmeH qal'aq}?

> 28 jan 2014 kl. 16:52 skrev "Lieven" <levinius@gmx.de>:
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> =

> Am 28.01.2014 16:28, schrieb Steven Boozer:
> >    qoD QutlhwI' ngaDmoHwI'
>>   Inner Support Stabilizer (KBoP)
>>   [i.e. those ceiling supports flanking the captain's chair on a
>>    BoP that look like large shock absorbers]
> =

> When I got the word for jungle gym, I noticed some interesting detail: Ma=
rc Okrand very often translates words in the pattern "x-ing device" with {x=
-wI' Doch}, although many times I would have thought it could be {x-meH Doc=
h}.
> =

> It's not a {QutlhmeH ngaDmoHwI'}, but  a {QutlhwI' ngaDmoHwI'}.
> It's not a {toSmeH qal'aq}, but a {toSwI' qal'aq}.
> =

> Do you have more examples of this kind?
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> -- =

> Lieven L. Litaer
> aka Quvar valer 'utlh
> http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher
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