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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: Say'qu'moH

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ruben Molina)
Tue Jan 14 20:52:17 2014

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 20:51:56 -0500
From: Ruben Molina <rmolina@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Bellerophon, modeler <
bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com> wrote:

> Isn't {lo'laH} an exception?
> ~'eD
>

Yes, it is an exception:

On the other hand, you're right about lo'laH "be valuable."
It is a simple verb in its own right (though it's an
unusual two-syllable one), not the verb lo' "use" plus Type
5 suffix -laH "can."  It is likely that there is some sort
of historical connection to the verb + suffix form, but, if
so, it is just that -- historical.

http://klingonska.org/canon/search/?file=3D1998-02-23-news.txt&get=3Dsource

Maybe {lo'laH} was related with the "use-value" of a commodity:
 {lo'laHlu'} 'someone can use it'   therefore   'it is useful' =E2=86=92 {l=
o'laH}
"it is valuable", and maybe, after some time, it started to be used for any
other form of value, maybe something like: {lo'laH DuDuQlaHbogh Hew} 'a
statue which can emotionally touch you is valuable'

ruben

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Bellerophon, modeler=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204=
);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Isn&#39;t {lo&=
#39;laH} an exception?<div>
~&#39;eD</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5"></div=
></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Yes, i=
t is an exception:</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><pre style=3D"word-wrap:=
break-word">
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">On the other hand, yo=
u&#39;re right about lo&#39;laH &quot;be valuable.&quot;
It is a simple verb in its own right (though it&#39;s an
unusual two-syllable one), not the verb lo&#39; &quot;use&quot; plus Type
5 suffix -laH &quot;can.&quot;  It is likely that there is some sort
of historical connection to the verb + suffix form, but, if
so, it is just that -- historical.</span><font face=3D"arial"><span style=
=3D"white-space:normal">
</span></font></pre><div><a href=3D"http://klingonska.org/canon/search/?fil=
e=3D1998-02-23-news.txt&amp;get=3Dsource">http://klingonska.org/canon/searc=
h/?file=3D1998-02-23-news.txt&amp;get=3Dsource</a><br></div><div><br></div>=
<div>
Maybe {lo&#39;laH} was related with the &quot;use-value&quot; of a commodit=
y: =C2=A0{lo&#39;laHlu&#39;} &#39;someone can use it&#39; =C2=A0 therefore =
=C2=A0 &#39;it is useful&#39; =E2=86=92 {lo&#39;laH} &quot;it is valuable&q=
uot;, and maybe, after some time, it started to be used for any other form =
of value, maybe something like: {lo&#39;laH DuDuQlaHbogh Hew} &#39;a statue=
 which can emotionally touch you is valuable&#39;</div>
<div><br></div><div>ruben</div></div></div>

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