[97818] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] everywhere else
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (nIqolay q)
Fri Jan 10 23:05:17 2014
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmPxh20SKA7n1VkPk2+Ozve-Zg4Qb+H4NNaeJFj+D4No-g@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:05:02 -0500
From: nIqolay q <niqolay0@gmail.com>
To: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@kli.org
In the case of "Dat peD, 'ach naDev peDbe'", I think it might not be
taken as contradictory. There's already a similar precedent for words
referring to "everything" being used in the sense of "everything
besides" or "everything else" in contexts where an explicit exception
is given -- the superlative construction uses Hoch, not Hoch latlh.
{wo'rIv yoH law' Hoch yoH puS} implicitly means "Worf is braver than
everybody else", even though a more literal meaning of "Hoch" might
suggest that Worf is braver than everyone including himself, which is
nonsensical. Granted, the law'-puS construction is highly formalized,
so perhaps an exception is made in that case, but perhaps it means
that the Klingon mind would not immediately dismiss a similar
construction with "Dat".
That said, I also like ghunchu'wI''s suggestion of {naDev neH peDbe'}.
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:40 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
> chay' qechvam Da'oS?
>
> "It's snowing everywhere but here", or "It's snowing everywhere else."
>
> {Dat peD, 'ach naDev peDbe'} sounds a bit contradictory, but perhaps
> the latter half restricts the former.
>
> {naDev peDbe', 'ach Hoch latlh DaqDaq peD} is a bit too wordy.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> --
> De'vID
>
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